Wavy joint shaft, on a 3/8x10 Butt. how bad?

Thanks for all the informations, I'm loving it.

As far as why I would buy a shaft with another type of threads, is due to the shaft being not available at all on 3/8x10 , I even asked in WTB sub-forum for months, I had to choose between raidal pin or wavy, and I' wanted the shaft so bad that I settled to go with Wavy , and the reason that I chosen wavy for my butt is because some weeks ago I've seen a friend of mine with a wavy mezz shaft, then I asked him if i can check it out if it can screw on my butt, and he said ok. and I tried and it screwed fine, but again I asked here to be sure that i'll be fine ordering a wavy. But apparntely most of the answers is that I'm not fine ordering a wavy, but i already ordered it so yea, can't un-do now.

as far as it will be damaging the shaft, i'm fine with that as long as it doesn't damage the butt that i love and can't change, I really can't change my butt been playing with it for years, so yea I was forced to get a Wavy shaft because as i said, i wanted that shaft so bad.

and as of why I don't go to repairman to ask him to make the shaft 3/8x10, is that in my area there isnt any repair guys that are actually good, so I'm scared that they will ruin the shaft, I'm not confident in their work. And if i wanted to get it done with a really good cue-repairman that will cost alot of money, because it will be oversea shipment back and forth, I live in the middle-east, so yeah it is kinda difficult, I have to settle with this for now and see how things pan out in the long run.
 
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ElCorazonFrio said:
If the cue binds up before the flats are seated, it is (by definition) not completely screwed together and all but the most obtuse would argue this point.

BTW, I taught myself how to build cues at 19. I was making short splices by 21. No apprenticeship, no videos, just me designing them. I am a mechanical engineer now.
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Congrats on your accomplishments, but if you have the experience you say you do, then you know exactly what I was talking about and therefore no need of a rebuttal type post throwing around a resume. BTW, I don't consider myself obtuse, hell I only weight 175lbs at 5'10" :D
Just because things stop turning doesn't mean they are seated properly. There are many other variables involved like pin length, hole depth, minor and major dia. of things that were never meant to be joined, etc. Your response comes across more like you just want to argue picky stuff, and frankly, I'm tired (had major surgery last week) and don't care to argue about something I don't care enough about. My original post was basically expressing my opinion that it's a bad idea to order 2 shafts that he knew don't match the butt and expect them to fit. There will be issues. Just because they 'fit' together when screwed together, doesn't mean all is well.
JMO
Dave
 
Dave38 said:
Congrats on your accomplishments, but if you have the experience you say you do, then you know exactly what I was talking about and therefore no need of a rebuttal type post throwing around a resume. BTW, I don't consider myself obtuse, hell I only weight 175lbs at 5'10" :D
Just because things stop turning doesn't mean they are seated properly. There are many other variables involved like pin length, hole depth, minor and major dia. of things that were never meant to be joined, etc. Your response comes across more like you just want to argue picky stuff, and frankly, I'm tired (had major surgery last week) and don't care to argue about something I don't care enough about. My original post was basically expressing my opinion that it's a bad idea to order 2 shafts that he knew don't match the butt and expect them to fit. There will be issues. Just because they 'fit' together when screwed together, doesn't mean all is well.
JMO
Dave
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That shaft will wobble if you chuck up on the butt's collar and join the shaft.
Seen it many times.
 
Dave38 said:
Congrats on your accomplishments, but if you have the experience you say you do, then you know exactly what I was talking about and therefore no need of a rebuttal type post throwing around a resume. BTW, I don't consider myself obtuse, hell I only weight 175lbs at 5'10" :D
Just because things stop turning doesn't mean they are seated properly. There are many other variables involved like pin length, hole depth, minor and major dia. of things that were never meant to be joined, etc. Your response comes across more like you just want to argue picky stuff, and frankly, I'm tired (had major surgery last week) and don't care to argue about something I don't care enough about. My original post was basically expressing my opinion that it's a bad idea to order 2 shafts that he knew don't match the butt and expect them to fit. There will be issues. Just because they 'fit' together when screwed together, doesn't mean all is well.
JMO
Dave
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Hope you recover well from the surgery.

I think we have different definitions of what it means for the cue to be assembled.

I added my resume because you put yours on.

Take care.
 
Can anybody who is into creating youtube videos or tutorial show the way to tap the shaft and change it from Wavy to 3/8x10 , if its not too much tools needed maybe i am able to buy the tool that taps the shaft and do it myself? thanks
 
ElCorazonFrio said:
If what others say is true and the wavy is 3/8-9, it won't screw together without ruining threads.

As for being straight, the threads don't keep the cue straight. This is such a misconception in cuestick making and buying.

The pin can align the joints, but it is only the joint faces which will keep a cue straight.
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Frio

While this is true, threads can cause a cue to not be straight.

If the threaded hole at an angle to the center line of the shaft, the cue will thread on and seat. Tightly seating the two together, the compliance of the screw and the internal threads may bring the shaft very close to being in alignment. If the deviation is small, then it may come completely into alignment. But, if the deviation is too large, the cue will not be straight, even though the faces may be touching.

Royce
 
just an update, both shafts were straight, and screwing fine with the butt, I wasn't forcing anything, they screwed like perfect and you wouldn't think that the threads are different, but then when screwed together , one shaft came out perfectly straight with the butt, and the other one was wabbling after it is screwed to the butt, keep in mind both shafts were straight if tested alone.

the wabble wasnt big thought, i wonder how to fix that, just slight wabble
 
asbani said:
just an update, both shafts were straight, and screwing fine with the butt, I wasn't forcing anything, they screwed like perfect and you wouldn't think that the threads are different, but then when screwed together , one shaft came out perfectly straight with the butt, and the other one was wabbling after it is screwed to the butt, keep in mind both shafts were straight if tested alone.

the wabble wasnt big thought, i wonder how to fix that, just slight wabble
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Ship both shafts to a qualified cue repairman to have them plugged and retapped to 3/8 X 10. That is the only good fix.

Alan

Phelps Custom Cues
 
aphelps1 said:
Ship both shafts to a qualified cue repairman to have them plugged and retapped to 3/8 X 10. That is the only good fix.

Alan

Phelps Custom Cues
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I would except that would cost more than shaft price, back and forth that is.
 
asbani said:
just an update, both shafts were straight, and screwing fine with the butt, I wasn't forcing anything, they screwed like perfect and you wouldn't think that the threads are different, but then when screwed together , one shaft came out perfectly straight with the butt, and the other one was wabbling after it is screwed to the butt, keep in mind both shafts were straight if tested alone.

the wabble wasnt big thought, i wonder how to fix that, just slight wabble
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The only real fix is to have the right threaded shaft on the matching threaded pin. Plain and simple. You were warned, and now.......you will now spend more to make it right, or settle for a poor quality fit with a wobbly shaft. If as you said earlier, there isn't anyone you trust to do repairs, sounds like your stuck! Sorry if this sounds rude, but you were warned, but chose to disregard....you bought shafts KNOWING that they don't fit your cue......enjoy.:thumbup:
Dave
 
Dave38 said:
The only real fix is to have the right threaded shaft on the matching threaded pin. Plain and simple. You were warned, and now.......you will now spend more to make it right, or settle for a poor quality fit with a wobbly shaft. If as you said earlier, there isn't anyone you trust to do repairs, sounds like your stuck! Sorry if this sounds rude, but you were warned, but chose to disregard....you bought shafts KNOWING that they don't fit your cue......enjoy.:thumbup:
Dave
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I'm not stuck completely, one shaft came out perfect, the other one is wabbling just a little, but I think there was an misunderstanding, I didn't mean that I don't trust anyone to do repairs. All I said was that the guys that do repairs AROUND MY AREA are not that good, most of them are amateurs that can barely do tips and that sort of thing, so I'm scared to have them do joint stuff.
 
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