WE LIVE ON A PLANET: YES, this is pool related

They're definitely not trolling wassamattawichu?

One THIRD of millennials believe wholeheartedly the earth is flat. Think about that for one moment. 1/3.

ONNNNNNNNE THIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD OF THE PEOPLE WHO WILL RUN THE COUNTRY WHEN WE RETIRE THINK WE LIVE ON A FLAT EARTH UNDER A GLASS DOME AND THINK SPACE ISN'T REAL.

If the Flatties achieve power, youse guys will save a lotta $$$ on space programs.

pt....looks for silver linings
 
If the Flatties achieve power, youse guys will save a lotta $$$ on space programs.

pt....looks for silver linings

Yeah, but what you're forgetting about is: just who will mow all that flat area?


Jeff Livingston
 
Yeah, but what you're forgetting about is: just who will mow all that flat area?


Jeff Livingston

Iowans have a lot of experience with that terrain.
...don’t have to mow...more corn for everybody.


pt...amaizingly simple solutions
 
Educated people since even before the ancient Greeks generally felt the earth was round.
But I'm not sure what religion has to with thinking for or against flatness....
...as a matter of fact, is "religion" a blanket statement?

Well if you look past the obvious trolls, the bulk of (Western) flat earthers is divided into two groups:
Conspiracy nuts and Christian fundamentalists (who also may or may not be conspiracy nuts). I'm not going to quote all the bible verses, but there are plenty who state that the earth is immovable, that there is a "vault" above it etc...etc. If you believe the Bible literally, there are limited options, other than to reject most of modern science. These people believe the earth is 6k years old and that Noahs ark is a true story...Grown men and women..I'm sorry but that is RETARDED. I didn't say "Christians" because I didn't want to start anything, but that's who they are.
 
40-50% believe the earth was created 6-10k years ago.
Maybe this will cheer you up a little: creationism has been steadily declining (along with religiosity in general) and was "only" 38% a year ago. Young-Earth creationism must be an even smaller part of it.

My fellow Americans...

pj
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The rub is that we're living in a virtual reality. So different things that are measured won't necessarily all make sense for a globe planet or a flat earth.

The results of different experiments or "views" of the earth, will simply display what they were programmed to display when that particular aspect is measured (looked at).


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The rub is that we're living in a virtual reality. So different things that are measured won't necessarily all make sense for a globe planet or a flat earth.
I'm pretty sure that all the measurements taken so far make sense for a globe planet. Do you have some exceptions in mind?

pj
chgo
 
I would say it's more retarded...

Well if you look past the obvious trolls, the bulk of (Western) flat earthers is divided into two groups:
Conspiracy nuts and Christian fundamentalists (who also may or may not be conspiracy nuts). I'm not going to quote all the bible verses, but there are plenty who state that the earth is immovable, that there is a "vault" above it etc...etc. If you believe the Bible literally, there are limited options, other than to reject most of modern science. These people believe the earth is 6k years old and that Noahs ark is a true story...Grown men and women..I'm sorry but that is RETARDED. I didn't say "Christians" because I didn't want to start anything, but that's who they are.

I would say it's much more retarded to dogmatically discount stories of a massive flood and a boat built to survive it with animals from virtually every culture on earth; even cultures that are believed to have been completely isolated from others...

Also, understanding that what we currently refer to as geologic time and what was referred to as time in the past are two completely different things and that relativity supports a young earth when that is understood. Meaning that while geologic time is supported as being VERY old, time as it has been referred to as by people throughout most of recorded history is supported as being very young.

That being the number of times the earth has traveled around the sun.

If you'd like, I could easily and readily get into specifics...

IOW... Don't conflate idiotic, easily disproven beliefs such as flat earth, with other ideas and concepts such as creationism and theism.

Jaden
 
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...understanding that what we currently refer to as geologic time and what was referred to as time in the past are two completely different things and that relativity supports a young earth when that is understood.
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If you'd like, I could easily and readily get into specifics...
Gettin' to be about NPR time... :wave3:

pj
chgo
 
I'm pretty sure that all the measurements taken so far make sense for a globe planet. Do you have some exceptions in mind?



pj

chgo

I'm not talking just about measuring the earth itself. Ask any pilot if they need to constantly steer the plane downwards, which would be required based on the stated curvature of the earth to keep planes from flying right out into space. They will tell you that they don't need to keep altering their height downwards. When they're cruising at altitude, the gyro in the plane ensures that they are flying horizontal. There is no constant downward adjustments needed.

It appears that some things are programmed to be handled much more simply than computing them based on a curved globe.

It's similar to how particles are programmed to be displayed as a discrete particle if measured with certain experiments, but to be displayed as a wave if a different type of measurement is made. There really are no particles at all, when no measurements are made (when no data is requested from the system).

Just like on the subatomic scale, not everything makes sense as if we're in a material world, and the same is true on a macro scale.


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Ask any pilot if they need to constantly steer the plane downwards, which would be required based on the stated curvature of the earth to keep planes from flying right out into space. They will tell you that they don't need to keep altering their height downwards. When they're cruising at altitude, the gyro in the plane ensures that they are flying horizontal. There is no constant downward adjustments needed.
Look up "gravity".

pj
chgo
 
What do you think tells a plane that it's flying level?

Sorry. I'm talking about a plane flying level. That's what they do. Gravity does not cause a plane to point it's nose down to correct it's course.




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What tells a plane that it's flying level?? Where do those computers get their information?

Lookup how an altimeter works and you'll have your answer...

Jaden

p.s. There's typically idiocy on both sides of an argument. I'll stand up for logical thought every time no matter which side isn't using it.
 
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I'm not talking just about measuring the earth itself. Ask any pilot if they need to constantly steer the plane downwards, which would be required based on the stated curvature of the earth to keep planes from flying right out into space. They will tell you that they don't need to keep altering their height downwards. When they're cruising at altitude, the gyro in the plane ensures that they are flying horizontal. There is no constant downward adjustments needed.

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Seems to me there is a great misunderstanding of how things work here....
....I am not going argue about things I'm not qualified for....
...but this prompts an old Ernie Kovacs routine...

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Ernie Kovacs as The Answer Man: Q: “It is a well known fact that the Earth is round like a ball. Therefore, some people must be walking upside down. Why is it that they don’t fall off?” Ernie Kovacs: “You have stated a common misconception. People are falling off all the time!”
 
I would say it's much more retarded to dogmatically discount stories of a massive flood and a boat built to survive it with animals from virtually every culture on earth; even cultures that are believed to have been completely isolated from others...

Also, understanding that what we currently refer to as geologic time and what was referred to as time in the past are two completely different things and that relativity supports a young earth when that is understood. Meaning that while geologic time is supported as being VERY old, time as it has been referred to as by people throughout most of recorded history is supported as being very young.

That being the number of times the earth has traveled around the sun.

If you'd like, I could easily and readily get into specifics...

IOW... Don't conflate idiotic, easily disproven beliefs such as flat earth, with other ideas and concepts such as creationism and theism.

Jaden

I'm not discounting that a major flood may have happened (nothing even remotely close to the biblical account) or even that some guy had animals on his boat. I'm discounting the Noah myth, as told in the bible. You probably know it pretty well, so I won't have to go into specifics. But you do realize that pretty much the whole story is completely impossible and illogical to boot? Where did the water come from? Where did it go? Why didn't they suffocate in the high altitude (above Mount Everest)? What did the animals eat on the boat? What did they eat after the flood (all plant life dead)? An old man and his sons built a boat larger than any that has been constructed out of wood in the history of mankind (by huge companies), it didn't break apart (like a wooden ship of that size would)? Lets not go into the age thing, either...I'm sorry but when you look at the details this story couldn't convince even a child, unless that child had been brainwashed from a young age.
 
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