What are you best banking/kicking systems?

[jwe711]

chefdrew: I teach a specialty class of Kicking & Banking. It's all hands on. Usually takes us a day. If interested just let me know. I might be in your area soon.....SPF=randyg

Randy G. can get you going !!!
He's a great instructor and mentor to hundreds and even thousands of players!

jwe

 

[Patrick Johnson]

MitchAlsup:
For two rail kicks. Imagine a line between the CB and the OB and find the exact middle of this line. From this point aim at a pocket (90% corner but occasionaly a side). This aim line is now transfered to the CB (that is moved while retaining the same angular relationship) and becomes the point of aim for the CB. Use a touch of running english.

I picked this up by watching WPBA.

Mr Hoppe:
This is a seldom documented, but VERY easy and repeatible method for 2 rail kicks. Easy and works well, but hard to get real accuracy on the hit. This is the nuts if you just want to make the hit.

Actually, if you use this system without adjustment you'll seldom get a hit. The measurement gives you the "geometrically correct" angle, but the CB will go wide of that just about every time because of the spin it picks up off the first rail.

You have to aim a little closer to the corner than the measurement suggests - experience will tell you how much, depending on the angle to the first rail and the cleanliness of the table/balls.

In this drawing the blue line is the measured track, but the actual track will look more like the red line:



pj
chgo

 

[Bob Jewett]

For two rail kicks. Imagine a line between the CB and the OB and find the exact middle of this line. From this point aim at a pocket (90% corner but occasionaly a side). This aim line is now transfered to the CB (that is moved while retaining the same angular relationship) and becomes the point of aim for the CB. Use a touch of running english.

I picked this up by watching WPBA.

As Patrick Johnson pointed out, you need to adjust the line of aim that you get from the simple system, or you're going to miss a lot of hits.

Here is an article that lets you see how good or bad the system is for a particular location of the object ball. The technique lets you get the exact alignment of the system instantly for any cue ball position. A few minutes of testing will probably convince you that without corrections the system is not very useful. The testing technique can show you what sort of corrections are needed according to where the balls are sitting.

Here is a diagram from that article.

 

[RunoutJJ]

I use the triangle method

 

[chefdrew]

Keep em coming, great stuff.

 

[dr_dave]

Ditto to what PJ and Bob wrote. FYI, Tom and I demonstrate how to adjust the two-rail-parallel-line system in Shots 514 and 515 on Disc IV of the Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots.

The system, like all kick and bank systems, certainly requires practice on a given table.

Regards,
Dave