I would imagine Classic Billiards has the missing parts.
What Brunswick model here.
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If it needs new rubber, none of the currently available rubber will fit properly. You can either live with the non proper fit, or send the wooden rails away to have the bevel angle changed to properly fit the current Brunswick superspeed cushions. That’s roughly a 1500 job (including the new cushions).
True. There may be a mechanic in his area that has experience in doing this process which is necessary for modern K55 cushions to properly fit on all Brunswick tables prior to the Gold Crown III.
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There's barely a pool table within 50 miles, You guys are making me nervous now LoL.
Trent from Toldeo is close to you. He farms out the rail work but hear he's a good mechanic otherwise.
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Nobody makes the proper cushions?
Nope. That’s why people are paying $1000 plus to change the angle.
Others are not bothering and new cushions are “good enough”.
Also of note that old rubber may still play great, and then you won’t have to worry about it.
No. The old Monarch cushions that were installed on pre Gold Crown III tables were a different size than the modern K55 profile rubber available today. If it is installed without modifying the subrails, it could throw off the cushion height and the playing surface will shrink by a 1/4" on all sides.
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Well dang! Though I'm not thrilled with that ideal would/will it still play pretty good? Probably wouldn't spring off the rails the same I guess
It varies. Some have not noticed a difference (not sure they would even know) others have reported the rails don't play as fast and some have reported ball hop.
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Get the Brunswick Sport King. Sounds like the table was in a church so the original rubber might be good. I can't imagine a table getting a lot of play time in a church. Certainly not getting any real action in a church, if so that's my kind of church.
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Just wanted to clarify that there is more to a rail conversion/overhaul than merely changing the cushion bevel angle. Usually the entire subrail is cut off and replaced with butcher block poplar. If you just recut the bevel angle to get the cushion nose height correct then you will lose subrail depth, pocket facing area which reduces the pocket shelf, the play field dimensions will be off. Most of the Brunswick overhauls also include deleting the figure 8 nut plates and installing new rail mount bolt inserts. Same procedure for the pocket casting inserts.
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We'll see when I get there but they offered to send a video of just how good the cushions still are so hopefully other than clothe I'll get years of use before anything needs touched
Subrails can simply have the faces shaved to the correct bevel without noticeable affects. It's not an extreme adjustment.
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As many old Brunswick tables as there is it would seem someone would have made cushions by now. I guess though they don't go bad often so not a huge market
Yeah I was just pointing out that if folks are paying 1,000 to 1,500 bucks for professional rail work they would be getting a lot more than just the bevel angle adjustment.
It depends. I paid $1,500 for the rail work on my Gold Crown I. The bevel was adjusted and the subrails extended to accommodate 4.125" corners and 4.875" sides. The cost included new cushions (Diamond Black). If one were simply having the bevel adjusted and not having the subrails extended, $500 or so would be a fair price.
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Worse. Way worse.