What can be done to make an epoxy covered cue non-slip?

Flex

Flex

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Dear Cuemakers,

I have a new sneaky pete that is much too slick in my hand for my taste. I don't want to install a leather wrap on it, as it will take away from it's house cue look. And beeswax on the handle is only partially satisfactory for me. What would you do to make the butt portion where a linen wrap is normally installed have more "feel"? As the cue is right now, it slips too easily when shooting certain shots, and that destroys my confidence. Last night in a tournament, I mishit a certain shot because of undesired slippage. Perhaps there's a way to roughen up the surface area to make it non-slip?

Thanks so much!

Flex
 
If you can spin it on a lathe, then you can sand the area lightly with 220 then hit it with the wax. Works well. ;)
 
Varney Cues said:
If you can spin it on a lathe, then you can sand the area lightly with 220 then hit it with the wax. Works well. ;)
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Thanks, will try that!
 
JoeyInCali said:
Just do what Efren does.
Masking tape. :)
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I could also get some of that golf grip wrap and tape that on there, or get one of those rubber sleeves they sell for 3 cushion cues, but that will take away from the house cue look I want. I want it to look discrete, nothing special.
 
Varney Cues said:
If you can spin it on a lathe, then you can sand the area lightly with 220 then hit it with the wax. Works well. ;)
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Just did it. Hope it works well. Probably will.

Thanks again.
 
you might try that tack substance that bowlers use to keep the ball from slipping off the fingers.
M.C.
 
Varney Cues said:
How did it do for you?
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Well, it didn't work too well, in the sense that the degree of abrasion with 220 grit paper, followed by the beeswax, was only slightly different from beeswax applied to the unabraded finish, and the wax wore off quickly, and at that point, the cue was still too slippery for me. Granted, shooting soft shots are one thing, but at times I need to be sure the cue is not going to slip on me.


So, horror of horrors, I masked off the section where a wrap would normally go, and spun the butt and instead used 40 grit, yes 40 grit, paper. Now that really roughed up the surface a bit. I didn't want to go down to the wood, and the result is that while that area on the cue is readily noticeable, it doesn't attract any attention, and beeswax on that area tends to stay on the cue longer. I played with the cue for about 7 hours on and off and the wax is still adequate.

As the cue is a cheapy sneaky, I don't really care if the looks would make a purist faint, I just want a cue that will play well and will pass for a house cue in bars, which it did tonight. I was holding the cue and the next fellow to play came to grab it from me, I said it's my cue, he said, but you're not playing, I said it's my cue, and I don't lend it. He insisted, thinking it was a house cue...:D You mean you brought it from home?? Yes, sir!

So, it passes muster, and plays great.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Flex
 
A further update: I tried something else just a little while ago and like the results better than with the sandpaper.

As the epoxy finish on the butt is pretty thick, I took an extra-slim triangle file and spun the butt and dragged it across the grip area and put grooves into the epoxy. As the epoxy shavings are white and left the grip area looking somewhat milky, I got out some cordovan wax shoe polish and applied it with a brush, and then shined it up, got all the excess off, and then reapplied the beeswax. The result is a butt that looks normal from a distance with only a dull sheen over the grip area but has the tactile feel of a very slightly roughed up irish linen and a relatively non-slip grip with the beeswax.

Happy with the way it looks and feels :)

Flex
 
Varney Cues said:
I'm waiting on you to Dremel some tactical grooves.:D
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What in the world are tactical grooves? Or is that tactile grooves? If by that you mean perceptible to the touch, they are, just as the way some Irish linen is installed gives a slightly rough surface area that is less slippery than pressed linen. I like the feel of the grip now. Maybe I'm on to something... LOL Gotta say the effect is pretty sneaky.:D
 
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Flex said:
What in the world are tactical grooves? Or is that tactile grooves? If by that you mean perceptible to the touch, they are, just as the way some Irish linen is installed gives a slightly rough surface area that is less slippery than pressed linen. I like the feel of the grip now. Maybe I'm on to something... LOL Gotta say the effect is pretty sneaky.:D
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Tactical...as in: small actions serving a larger purpose. Kind of a gun term...like when you take a regular 1911 and have nightsights installed and/or 30 lines per inch milled into the frontstrap with a nonreflective finish applied. You just customed it into a "tactical" weapon. ;)
 
Flex said:
Dear Cuemakers,

I have a new sneaky pete that is much too slick in my hand for my taste. I don't want to install a leather wrap on it, as it will take away from it's house cue look. And beeswax on the handle is only partially satisfactory for me. What would you do to make the butt portion where a linen wrap is normally installed have more "feel"? As the cue is right now, it slips too easily when shooting certain shots, and that destroys my confidence. Last night in a tournament, I mishit a certain shot because of undesired slippage. Perhaps there's a way to roughen up the surface area to make it non-slip?

Thanks so much!

Flex
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I'm curious as to why you call the finish "EPOXY"...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
I'm curious as to why you call the finish "EPOXY"...JER
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Not sure if it's epoxy. Sure don't think it's laqueur, doesn't chip easily, is quite hard, maybe it's some type of varnish.

I suppose I could take some of the dust that came off the but when I sanded it (if I could find some) and burn it and see what sort of odor it emits. Epoxy does have a distinctive smell when burning.

If it's not an epoxy type finish, what might it be?
 
Varney Cues said:
Tactical...as in: small actions serving a larger purpose. Kind of a gun term...like when you take a regular 1911 and have nightsights installed and/or 30 lines per inch milled into the frontstrap with a nonreflective finish applied. You just customed it into a "tactical" weapon. ;)
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It's definitely a tactical weapon in the hands of a skilled user! :D

Am I a skilled user? Some say so, and I'd like to think I am, but my doubts are many. Some call me a hustler, probably just to build my ego up so as to lighten my purse. Not falling into that trap.
 
Flex said:
It's definitely a tactical weapon in the hands of a skilled user! :D

Am I a skilled user? Some say so, and I'd like to think I am, but my doubts are many. Some call me a hustler, probably just to build my ego up so as to lighten my purse. Not falling into that trap.
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i haven't heard them call you the Hustler but you are well known as the Enforcer ..........
 
cuejoey said:
i haven't heard them call you the Hustler but you are well known as the Enforcer ..........
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Hey, there are some at Chris's who tell me I look like Mr. Belvedere :cool: But I sure don't have a moustache, nor his heft. I wonder where these guys get those ideas :D
 
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