Rarely pipe in? maplecap, that's the understatement of the day.
Where you been? What have you been doing? :smile:
What causes a cue to get a "dead" hit?
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Rarely pipe in? maplecap, that's the understatement of the day.
Where you been? What have you been doing? :smile:
Still hanging out in the city of death (Chicago, if you haven't guessed) where I've toiled since birth. I've had carreer ending surgeries the last 2 1/2 years. So no playing for now. I am retiring to Phoenix next year to start bothering the regulars there. Thank you very much for asking. Remember, play 14.1
Deanoc, your reply demonstrates a deep level of thought and, even though I build cues, I think you could have the best answer! Hats off to you, sir.
Many moons ago I was part of a group that built custom acoustic guitars. To choose the neck wood (maple or mahogany) we'd put a hook in the blank and hang it from the ceiling on a string, then tap it every two inches to listen for changes in sound. 4-out-of-5 blanks passed the test and it was pretty easy to hear the dead spots in the one that failed. (we only bought high quality wood (AAA+); maybe with lower quality wood we'd have had more failures).
The test reveals any significant inconsistancies in the wood grain that would cause the guitar's sound to change as you played higher/lower on the neck. I suspect those same inconsistancies would cause a shaft to feel dead.
I'll probably be murdered for this opinion, but: I doubt it makes any difference in the forearm/handle/buttend of the cue. That end of the cue is so chopped up that grain inconsistancies are the least of the problem.
bdorman, I also dabble in vintage tone woods for guitars. Remember in the 60's when Teisco had those multi-laminate necks? Those where know as a cruel joke and were the deadest necks around. A sure sign of an inferior guitar. I wonder how your tap test would have went if you used one of these laminate necks. Aren't LD shafts made the same way? Multi-laminate with a bunch of mixed woods and glue? Maybe that's why they feel dead to me. Jack
We may be onto something here. I have been playing with Predator shafts for sixteen years now so to me they feel perfectly fine. If that is so, then it may be all in what you're accustomed to.
Could the question become: "Is a shaft with a dead feel good, bad, or indifferent?"
LD shaft fillers
I am not sure I think its a predator shaft that is filled with silicone .
Not all LD shafts are laminated , allot of the cue repair guys are now making non laminated LD shafts .
I fill mine with foam. they have more of the hit of a solid maple shaft then laminated.
Only problem is the tenon, It makes the tenon extremely weak and easy to break if the player is a hard hitter
I am not sure I think its a predator shaft that is filled with silicone .
Not all LD shafts are laminated , allot of the cue repair guys are now making non laminated LD shafts .
I fill mine with foam. they have more of the hit of a solid maple shaft then laminated.
Only problem is the tenon, It makes the tenon extremely weak and easy to break if the player is a hard hitter
Shaft
All joking aside maybe I need to send you a solid shaft .
When I switch from a meucci Black dot to a solid maple shaft it was like drinking a cool glass on spring water for the first time.
it was a ton of difference in the hit and feed back.
what joint and pin size is your butt ?
We may be onto something here. I have been playing with Predator shafts for sixteen years now so to me they feel perfectly fine. If that is so, then it may be all in what you're accustomed to.
Could the question become: "Is a shaft with a dead feel good, bad, or indifferent?"
All joking aside maybe I need to send you a solid shaft .
When I switch from a meucci Black dot to a solid maple shaft it was like drinking a cool glass on spring water for the first time.
it was a ton of difference in the hit and feed back.
what joint and pin size is your butt ?
We may be onto something here. I have been playing with Predator shafts for sixteen years now so to me they feel perfectly fine. If that is so, then it may be all in what you're accustomed to.
Could the question become: "Is a shaft with a dead feel good, bad, or indifferent?"
I think the answer for me is yes on all of the above. I would use a laminate shaft if that was all there was laying around. And if it felt dead, that would just be my observation and I would still shoot with it. But I would never play a guitar with a laminate neck. It would make me feel kind of "dirty". Jack
Its the chalk, $27.00 Kamui = great feedback
$.50 Masters = dead hit
$.50 Masters = dead hit
LD shafts have hollowed end and soft ferrules ( most of them anyway).
That's how they reduce their end mass.
Meucci had short tenon on their long capped ferrules . I don't know if they still do it.
Harvey Martin, I believe was the first qmaker to bounce shafts for tone.
That's how they reduce their end mass.
Meucci had short tenon on their long capped ferrules . I don't know if they still do it.
Harvey Martin, I believe was the first qmaker to bounce shafts for tone.
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No joke. I have a Schon shaft that came with the cue I am currently using. I played with it for a week, or so, and to me it felt as dead as a hammer.
I bought a Schon/Predator shaft along with that cue and to me it feels livelier than if I were pissing on an electrified fence.
It perception, and preference, I think.
Opinions
For me its exactly the opposite, Most LD shafts feel dead and the feed back is like the shaft is broken.
No joke. I have a Schon shaft that came with the cue I am currently using. I played with it for a week, or so, and to me it felt as dead as a hammer.
I bought a Schon/Predator shaft along with that cue and to me it feels livelier than if I were pissing on an electrified fence.
It perception, and preference, I think.
For me its exactly the opposite, Most LD shafts feel dead and the feed back is like the shaft is broken.
kaye_holly
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Man , how long you been on the felt?
Having trouble adjusting?
Says alot bout YOUR game.
You'll live if ya play!!#!!
Having trouble adjusting?
Says alot bout YOUR game.
You'll live if ya play!!#!!
kaye_holly
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Ps. , i play a Martin D-35... know my wood and PREFER solid rock maple... tnk u .