What causes this and can it be fixed?

alstl

alstl

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I play with a Schon. The original shaft rolls straight together and apart. The butt also rolls straight. I recently picked up two additional shafts, a Schon iv and an unknown shaft. They roll relatively straight apart, but when jointed to the butt they roll off enough that the tip lifts off the table.

The diameter of the two new shafts at the collar is slightly larger than the original shaft. Could it be that they are out of round at the collar? Would having a cuemaker put them on a lathe fix the problem?

Thanks.
 
alstl said:
I play with a Schon. The original shaft rolls straight together and apart. The butt also rolls straight. I recently picked up two additional shafts, a Schon iv and an unknown shaft. They roll relatively straight apart, but when jointed to the butt they roll off enough that the tip lifts off the table.

The diameter of the two new shafts at the collar is slightly larger than the original shaft. Could it be that they are out of round at the collar? Would having a cuemaker put them on a lathe fix the problem?

Thanks.
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Without the cue and shafts in front of me I would guess that they need facing.

Dick
 
The Chances That They Are Out Of Round Is Slim To None.....

I'd Bet That They Need To Be Faced (same As Above) They May Also Just Have A Heavy Dirt Build Up On The Face, Which You Could Try To Remove On Your Own.
 
Im no cue expert, but wouldnt the fact that the new shaft joint diameter is larger, cause it to lift the tip off the table whether or not they are straight?
 
burns420 said:
Im no cue expert, but wouldnt the fact that the new shaft joint diameter is larger, cause it to lift the tip off the table whether or not they are straight?
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YES, BUT IT WOULD LIFT IT EVENLY AS YOU ROLL THE CUE, IT WOULDN'T/SHOULDN'T CAUSE THE TIP TO HOP
 
Thanks fellas, the next time I'm in St Louis I might have Jim Buss take a look for me.
 
I ordered a

Schon from Seyberts. It did the same thing right out of the box. It didn't have a major roll, but it was definitely not straight.

They guy at Seyberts told me I could have a refund and mentioned the fact that it might not have been the original shaft. This was a discontinued model, and from what I understand, they got the butts and shafts mixed up or something.

Anyways, he mentioned how sometimes, Schon is so temperamental that even brand new, they can fit funny. I actually have a Schon and play with it with a Petree shaft and it matches up perfectly. The butt isn't even the original butt. I traded it with someone else. I have a Schon shaft and it matches up fine. Maybe you just got unlucky.

That's the only thing I can think your problem would be.
 
when i see this problem i look at how it lifts. if it lifts evenly off the table its the face or maybe the pilot.

if there is a wavy look when lifting its the shaft
 
alstl said:
I play with a Schon. The original shaft rolls straight together and apart. The butt also rolls straight. I recently picked up two additional shafts, a Schon iv and an unknown shaft. They roll relatively straight apart, but when jointed to the butt they roll off enough that the tip lifts off the table.

The diameter of the two new shafts at the collar is slightly larger than the original shaft. Could it be that they are out of round at the collar? Would having a cuemaker put them on a lathe fix the problem?

Thanks.
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Al, I would take the cue down to Jim Buss, the problems are very simple to correct and Jim would certainly do a great job.

Take care
 
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