What color felt is best?

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I am going to have a repairman replace felt on a Brunswick Windsor 8' standard table. It's close to 50 years old. Still shoots good but the felt is pock marked. It is the old standard green, I don't know what you call it. Whatever was on pool tables back then. If I look at Simonis site, it seems to be Simonis green. I am not saying this is Simonis, it just looks like the color. I want it to shoot good but I don't think I will put any high-end felt on it. The guy said Champion brand is fine. I think that's what he called it.

Been watching some pool on youtube and I kinda like the blue they use a lot these days, but the old standard green would be fine, I suppose. Anyone favor either or of those two? I don't see me putting anything other than those two on it.

As for bumpers, they are not loose and seem to be shooting fine. I bounce a ball off and it reflects ok but I'm not an expert. Any technique to evaluate a bumper to see if they need a rework or replace?

At my age, this should be the last time I have to deal with this, lol. I want it to be good. The repairman was recommended by a local pool hall owner.
 
livemusic said:
I am going to have a repairman replace felt on a Brunswick Windsor 8' standard table. It's close to 50 years old. Still shoots good but the felt is pock marked. It is the old standard green, I don't know what you call it. Whatever was on pool tables back then. If I look at Simonis site, it seems to be Simonis green. I am not saying this is Simonis, it just looks like the color. I want it to shoot good but I don't think I will put any high-end felt on it. The guy said Champion brand is fine. I think that's what he called it.

Been watching some pool on youtube and I kinda like the blue they use a lot these days, but the old standard green would be fine, I suppose. Anyone favor either or of those two? I don't see me putting anything other than those two on it.

As for bumpers, they are not loose and seem to be shooting fine. I bounce a ball off and it reflects ok but I'm not an expert. Any technique to evaluate a bumper to see if they need a rework or replace?

At my age, this should be the last time I have to deal with this, lol. I want it to be good. The repairman was recommended by a local pool hall owner.
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If your eyes are as bad as mine due to age, then Simonis Tournament Blue is the color that will help you see the edges of the balls better.

I'm not telling you to buy Simonis, but the color is what you seek.

Maniac
 
Champbilliards.com will give you an idea of the color options available. I would consider electric blue, brite blue, or championship green (same color as Simonis green). Even if the cushions seem fine, after that period of time, I'd have the fitter check to see if they need removal and re-gluing back on to the subrails if they are loose in any spots, New facings might not be a bad idea either. Good luck!
 
If you want a brighter shade of green go with Simonis Apple Green 860. Its not on their website but it is available. I have it on mine. Pic is attached.

The standard Simonis Green is very dark. As is the English Green.

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I made a similar thread some time ago as I was replacing my green cloth which was pretty old. I always thought green was "The Color of Money" and was the way to go. After a lengthy thread looking for inputI went with Simonis 860 Tournament Blue and could not be happier. Cloth is now about three years old and looks almost brand new. The difference in price when figuring in how good it is and how it holds up vanishes. Just my two cents. Go with your gut and enjoy.
 
I personally don't see Simonis green as being very dark, as you claim in your post. The photo shown with your latest post is exactly what my Simonis green looks like, with good table lighting. Also, the OP has stated he is not planning on purchasing an expensive grade cloth like Simonis.
 
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I personally don't see Simonis green as being very dark, as you claim in your post. The photo shown with your latest post is exactly what my Simonis green looks like, with decent table lighting. Also, the OP has stated he is not planning on purchasing an expensive grade cloth like Simonis.
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You can take a picture of a green-clothed pool table at several different angles and several different lighting combinations and each one could look like a different shade of green.

Maniac
 
Here's a close up of the various colors. Left to right:

Standard Simonis Green
Apple Green
Tournament Blue
Chartreuse
On the table is English Green
 

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Felt! Felt! Felt! Felt! Felt! Felt! Felt! Felt! Felt! Felt!



Freddie <~~~ Tournament Blue
 
The eyes are most sensitive (cones) to green. They work less to see it


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Nine ... corner said:
I made a similar thread some time ago as I was replacing my green cloth which was pretty old. I always thought green was "The Color of Money" and was the way to go. After a lengthy thread looking for inputI went with Simonis 860 Tournament Blue and could not be happier. Cloth is now about three years old and looks almost brand new. The difference in price when figuring in how good it is and how it holds up vanishes. Just my two cents. Go with your gut and enjoy.
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I agree. Nothing wrong with green, but the Blue is the way to go. :)
 
Aesthetically I like both the standard green and tournament blue colors but having played on both extensively, I give a big edge to tourney blue for being a much easier background to contrast against with the balls.

As for what brand, I know with a little searching you can find Simonis 860hr in the $225 range for a 9' cut so why consider Championship, Gorina, Andy or any other secondary cloth?

Simonis is the best, and they are huge sponsors to our sport. :thumbup:

best,
brian kc
 
The tournament blue is developed to be high contrast, yet easy on the eyes for extended playing.
The "downside" is that the colour isn`t the easiest to blend into normal livingroom surroundings. If you have a separate room it`s not a problem at all, but if the table is part of your furniture, the Simonis gray colour is very nice to play on and it`s alot easier to blend with the rest of the room.
 
If you compete outside home, I’d pick a color matching what you play on most often there.

My gut says I’d pick green on a 7’ Valley and blue on everything else.


Respectfully, Matt
(I don’t take myself too seriously. I hope you can return the favor.)
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
Aesthetically I like both the standard green and tournament blue colors but having played on both extensively, I give a big edge to tourney blue for being a much easier background to contrast against with the balls.

As for what brand, I know with a little searching you can find Simonis 860hr in the $225 range for a 9' cut so why consider Championship, Gorina, Andy or any other secondary cloth?

Simonis is the best, and they are huge sponsors to our sport. :thumbup:

best,
brian kc
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Last night, I kind of shifted gears and thought I might consider Tournament Blue. I see that alot in youtube videos. It seems it might be nice to shoot over and lo and behold I come back to this thread and several have mentioned it.

My table is 8ft standard, I assume, as it's 44" x 88" edge of bumper to edge of bumper.

I also thought about Simonis or not. The guy said Champion would cost about $125 and his fee is $300, so that's $425 total. He said Simonis is $300, so, if I went with that it would be $600. $425 vs. $600. I got to thinking about amortizing that in my head... over, say, 20 years, shooting just 1 day a week. The difference is negligible. So, hmmm... I might spring for Simonis. As for where to get it for $225, I haven't seen that price anywhere. If I could find it cheaper than the fitter, I assume he wouldn't mind; he said he does not mark up the cloth. If I found it somewhere, I would certainly hope to be assured of genuine Simonis.

Comments helpful about finally doing this after 50 years, I don't know much!
 
livemusic said:
Comments helpful about finally doing this after 50 years, I don't know much!
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The most important thing to know is be sure the mechanic working on it is first class and knows what they are doing. Installation is everything. Other wise you tossed out some big bucks. Research the person.
 
GoldCrown said:
The most important thing to know is be sure the mechanic working on it is first class and knows what they are doing. Installation is everything. Other wise you tossed out some big bucks. Research the person.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
truth

OP, maybe tell us where you are located and some can suggest a good mechanic in your area.

best,
brian kc
 
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