What Did COREY DEUEL just say about TOI???

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I agree with Mr. 8Pack. For me it's because the shots must be hit firmly to keep spin from affecting the shot. I've been using an OB Classic & a McD i3.

When I've tried a reg. shaft it works but, FOR ME, I am less consistent as there seems to be wider variations in the CB squirt/deflection. I'm sure one could get it under control in time but why, when it works fine with the 'LD' shafts.

Regards,

 

[CJ Wiley]

'The TOI Game Will Be the Teacher'

I've tried it with both.I play mainly with a 314 shaft,with a regular shaft the toi is a little bit harder for me to get use to.To me the 314 is the best choice for this method.(That's just me though)
Been thinking about doing a video on the shots I've been practicing on.
This system really fits in on how I connect the balls.(some shots)
I can honestly say CJ's Ideal of touch of inside has brought something new to my game in a very positive way.
Thank You Mr Wiley .:smile:

I'm really glad to hear that. Like I've said many times, if you just experience the TOI Technique for a few hours the worse that can happen is you learn a lot of new shots. The best that can happen is your game goes several levels up in a couple of weeks and you enjoy the game more.

This is my experience and I'm enjoying sharing it these days. A lot of people are just happy to play pool again. I hear that over and over through my facebook, email and on azbilliards.

The changes are long lasting as well, as a matter of fact they will get better and better. The results are difficult to believe, however, you can't argue with hundreds of positive results. Before the year's out there will be thousands of players using this system of playing pool. 'The TOI Game Will Be the Teacher'

 

[LAMas]

I know that the center of the CB aimed at the edge of the OB yields a geometric cut angle of 30 degrees.


If one shoots the CTE aim line with center CB, the cut angle is a bit less than 30 degrees because of CIT. To compensate for this - to achieve the 30 degree cut angle, one can use a bit of outside, high top or draw.

I now realize that I can now use TOI while aiming at the CTE line and the deflection will send the CB a bit outside of the CTE line and give me that 30 degree cut angle.

I can now aim at the part of the pocket closest to the OB with TOI and send the OB to the center of the pocket because of the slight deflection.

Thanks.

 

[CJ Wiley]

Just curious, I remember that for some reason.

I know that the center of the CB aimed at the edge of the OB yields a geometric cut angle of 30 degrees.


If one shoots the CTE aim line with center CB, the cut angle is a bit less than 30 degrees because of CIT. To compensate for this - to achieve the 30 degree cut angle, one can use a bit of outside, high top or draw.

I now realize that I can now use TOI while aiming at the CTE line and the deflection will send the CB a bit outside of the CTE line and give me that 30 degree cut angle.

I can now aim at the part of the pocket closest to the OB with TOI and send the OB to the center of the pocket because of the slight deflection.

Thanks.

That's interesting, were you the one that ask about my "half ball hit" example I gave when I first started posting? It was the "one diamond over, two diamonds up" example? Just curious, I remember that for some reason.

 

[LAMas]

That's interesting, were you the one that ask about my "half ball hit" example I gave when I first started posting? It was the "one diamond over, two diamonds up" example? Just curious, I remember that for some reason.

No.
I practice the spot to the right shot from the left side of the kitchen...with the CB just to the right of the left corner pocket in the kitchen which is a geometrically correct 30 degrees.

TOI deflection works to correct for the CIT on that shot and all 30 degree shots.
Thanks again.

 

[8pack]

I agree with Mr. 8Pack. For me it's because the shots must be hit firmly to keep spin from affecting the shot. I've been using an OB Classic & a McD i3.

When I've tried a reg. shaft it works but, FOR ME, I am less consistent as there seems to be wider variations in the CB squirt/deflection. I'm sure one could get it under control in time but why, when it works fine with the 'LD' shafts.

Regards,

This is what I was experiencing also.The TOI is always in one place for me on the cb and that spot is a little further out than a regular shaft.(off center)When you just go a little off center you dont get the deflection you need.(with a 314)This is what I was experiencing .

 

[8pack]

I'm really glad to hear that. Like I've said many times, if you just experience the TOI Technique for a few hours the worse that can happen is you learn a lot of new shots. The best that can happen is your game goes several levels up in a couple of weeks and you enjoy the game more.

This is my experience and I'm enjoying sharing it these days. A lot of people are just happy to play pool again. I hear that over and over through my facebook, email and on azbilliards.

The changes are long lasting as well, as a matter of fact they will get better and better. The results are difficult to believe, however, you can't argue with hundreds of positive results. Before the year's out there will be thousands of players using this system of playing pool. 'The TOI Game Will Be the Teacher'

It has actually help me address certain shots that not only helps me make the ball but gives the cb the correct route to the next ball.And you've talked about the ball floating,I'm starting to notice exactly what your talking about.

 

[CJ Wiley]

this is what began my journey to understanding what the TOI was all about.

It has actually help me address certain shots that not only helps me make the ball but gives the cb the correct route to the next ball.And you've talked about the ball floating,I'm starting to notice exactly what your talking about.

Yes, back in the "good ole days" we used to refer to it as "having the cue ball on a string." This was done by using the Touch Of Inside, and there were only a handful of players that did this consistently.

Many players I've seen though the years "stumble" on the TOI Technique when in "Dead Stroke," but the next day they forgot what they were doing. I "real eyesed" this and set out to figure out what was going on and this is what began my journey to understanding what the TOI was all about. 'The Game is the Teacher'

ps: if you're experiencing the "floating cue ball" you are well on your way to "enlightenment". keep it up, it's well worth the effort my friend

 

[Nick B]

So if a player wins an event all he has to say is "uhh, ya I used TOI!" and you will give him $1000 for saying it.

Which pro out there is "not" going to say it for the extra g-note? whether they used it or not? These are starving pool players after all.

Celtic! Congratulations on winning the DCC...what are you gonna do? Well Nick I'm going to Disneyland!

Nick

 

[CJ Wiley]

Champion players think differently about the game, plane and simple.

This is what I was experiencing also.The TOI is always in one place for me on the cb and that spot is a little further out than a regular shaft.(off center)When you just go a little off center you dont get the deflection you need.(with a 314)This is what I was experiencing .

Yes, the important thing is to "master your shot," and use it as much as possible. This is not typical thinking, however, typical thinking doesn't necessarily improve your Game.

Champion players think differently about the game, plane and simple. Even if you never have any intentions on being a Champion player it's still "cool" to know our perception of the Game.

With the TOI Technique we've developed a way to teach this "difference," because it's more than a mental or physical difference, it's a Perception Difference. 'The Game is Evolving'

 

[oscar]

dvd

i order one last week. i won a tour last week using it 300.00 in the pocket no CJ your not getting it LOL

 

[CJ Wiley]

'The Game is Evolving'

i order one last week. i won a tour last week using it 300.00 in the pocket no CJ your not getting it LOL

That's awesome, glad to stimulate the pool economy - I hope you run it into a fortune.

Omaha John, my old road partner just contacted me on Face Book. He's the one that originally told me about how to "Float" the cue ball and how effective is was for playing position on the bar table. On the bar table you actually have to play better position because there's less room to "move around."

The TOI SHOT makes the cue ball look like it's "Floating," and now that players are using it I'm sure you will agree how much more control you have this way. It's a "heavier" cue ball that you have to hit firmer, however, the greatest thing is it will rarely "get away from you."

Keep up the winning play, Oscar, and the TOI will only get better. 'The Game is Evolving'

 

[Cuemaster98]

Hi CJ,

When you say the cue ball is "Heavier" do you basically mean that you're hitting the cue ball fuller? And when you said the cue ball "Float" do mean that the cue ball is spinning after contacting object ball?

Also, trying to understand the different strokes that i have to use with using TOI? do you push at the cue ball or stroke it when using TOI?

Looking forward to your DVD.
BR,
Duc.

The TOI SHOT makes the cue ball look like it's "Floating," and now that players are using it I'm sure you will agree how much more control you have this way. It's a "heavier" cue ball that you have to hit firmer, however, the greatest thing is it will rarely "get away from you."

 

[CJ Wiley]

The cue ball looks like it's "floating" when it has "NO SPIN" after it contacts

Hi CJ,

When you say the cue ball is "Heavier" do you basically mean that you're hitting the cue ball fuller? And when you said the cue ball "Float" do mean that the cue ball is spinning after contacting object ball?

Also, trying to understand the different strokes that i have to use with using TOI? do you push at the cue ball or stroke it when using TOI?

Looking forward to your DVD.
BR,
Duc.

No, you hit the cue ball precisely and accurately with accelleration.

The cue ball looks like it's "floating" when it has "NO SPIN" after it contacts the object ball.

Check Out This Link For More Info, or go to www.cjwiley.com and Click the PPV TOI Button....there's free video clips of all the chapters there. You'll get a good idea of how extensive this video is....'The Game is Evolving, and the Game is the Teacher'

 

[BeiberLvr]

I watched the accu stats but matches last night, but couldn't tell.

Was Corey using TOI to win the one pocket event?

 

[CJ Wiley]

Corey won the one pocket, hmmm, I heard he was in the final 3,

I watched the accu stats but matches last night, but couldn't tell.

Was Corey using TOI to win the one pocket event?

Corey won the one pocket, hmmm, I heard he was in the final 3, but went to sleep early last night without checking and this AZ site was down.

I talked to him about the TOI after he made that post on my face book page. We spoke of me working with him on the finer points of TOI, but as far as I know he was just "experimenting," with the system....maybe he just needed something "new" to help get him over his "rut" he's been in. I'm glad he played well, regardless of how he did it.

 

[CJ Wiley]

He's got too much talent to not be winning tournaments.

I watched the accu stats but matches last night, but couldn't tell.

Was Corey using TOI to win the one pocket event?

I talked to Corey after he won the tournament and he expressed what was holding him back from winning more at 9 Ball. I think he's capable of playing rotation games at a much higher level if he makes some adjustments to his game. He's got too much talent to not be winning tournaments.