What do you do here?

So you sold out all 3 times against a pro...

Not the way i see it the pro would not have had a high percentage on 1 of the leaves and would have played a return safe on the second i made the 5 by accident in the side and had rough back cut on the 7 that i would make 60 percent and finish out from there and on the 3rd the pro would have had a kick at the 5 or a paper thin slice on a 5 partially hidden by the 7 to do a return safe
 
Not the way i see it the pro would not have had a high percentage on 1 of the leaves and would have played a return safe on the second i made the 5 by accident in the side and had rough back cut on the 7 that i would make 60 percent and finish out from there and on the 3rd the pro would have had a kick at the 5 or a paper thin slice on a 5 partially hidden by the 7 to do a return safe

10 ball is call pocket so kicking the 5 in only helped your opponent and leaving a cut for your opponent is death, all he has to do is make the ball and go up and back for shape.
 
... then don't leave that position (or let your opponent give you that position) next time! :thumbup:

Regards,
Dave

FANTASTIC! :D The things you can learn in this forum are sometimes hard to fathom.
 
In any case it's a bad situation. I'm guessing the players playing arent very good being that the table is laid out like this. Either someone played horrible position, or someone missed a shot they shouldn't have taken in the first place. The only scenario i can come up with is, someone pocketed the 4 ball, but called safe. I would think you just needed to make contact with this ball and not to give ball in hand. I guess i would kick 2 rails at it. The top rail first, then the short rail. If you cut it thin, it bounces behind the 10 and the cue goes up table.

It's not like there is a wrong and a right shot. Making contact is your first priority. Alot of people on here aren't pro's. Once you start thinking about making precise 2 rail kicks, you are gonna start missing the ball and giving up ball in hand. If you know your diamonds, then 2 rail kicks are not that hard.

Anyways, just some advice for the amateurs. There's alot of advice for the pro's on here.
 
In any case it's a bad situation. I'm guessing the players playing arent very good being that the table is laid out like this. Either someone played horrible position, or someone missed a shot they shouldn't have taken in the first place. The only scenario i can come up with is, someone pocketed the 4 ball, but called safe. I would think you just needed to make contact with this ball and not to give ball in hand. I guess i would kick 2 rails at it. The top rail first, then the short rail. If you cut it thin, it bounces behind the 10 and the cue goes up table.

It's not like there is a wrong and a right shot. Making contact is your first priority. Alot of people on here aren't pro's. Once you start thinking about making precise 2 rail kicks, you are gonna start missing the ball and giving up ball in hand. If you know your diamonds, then 2 rail kicks are not that hard.

Anyways, just some advice for the amateurs. There's alot of advice for the pro's on here.

I'm the bad player who left himself this shot. :D
 
Yeah, if you hit the draw shot bad and accidentally hit two rails before the 5, the CB is coming at a much higher angle and may scratch off of the bottom of the 5 ball. Kicking with the natural two railer theres very little chance of scratching...

If 10 pros look this situation all 10 will kick the natural 2 railer. 6-7 of them will make the ball and get shape, the other 3-4 will get safe.
Know what, Saw?...been thinking about my first instinct on this shot.
..gotta a few road miles in me and I my choice is 'strange table' thinking.
On my home table, I'd probably play it your way.....but I had a pattern
for strange tables where I have more control over my own destiny...the
draw is more predictable for the hit and not giving ball in hand.

Same thinking on thin-cut safeties....home table, nick the ball and go up
table....strange table, massive outside english (if not on the rail) makes
the outcome more up to the shooter than the levelness of the table.

I was pretty keen at identifying conditions...light cue-balls, speed of
cloth, dead rails, humidity.....
...that way it took them MUCH longer to bust me....:o
 
A lot of good options have been shown, but being it is Sunday, it appears to be a 4th and 10 punting situation.:smile:
 
10 ball is call pocket so kicking the 5 in only helped your opponent and leaving a cut for your opponent is death, all he has to do is make the ball and go up and back for shape.

i understand that but as i said that was 1 of three i still think better odds than trying to make the 5 and in a match probably would have called the cross side just in case
 
You need to spend less time on AZB and more time practicing so you don't leave shots like these. :D:p

Regards,
Dave

Not exactly, practice can only do so much. I already practice a lot but instead of posting, I should spend more time playing guys like you. :grin::p
 
Not exactly, practice can only do so much. I already practice a lot but instead of posting, I should spend more time playing guys like you. :grin::p

Settle down....................................
 
Not exactly, practice can only do so much. I already practice a lot but instead of posting, I should spend more time playing guys like you. :grin::p
Joey,

I was just teasing you, but I guess I pushed your buttons a little too hard. Sorry. :embarrassed2:

I'd like to play the next time I'm in the Big Easy with some spare time. Also look me up if you ever make it to Colorado.

Thanks for the great thread. I love the "what would you do here?" threads, especially the ones from Neil. I think I've learned more from these threads than any others.

Regards,
Dave
 
Joey,

I was just teasing you, but I guess I pushed your buttons a little too hard. Sorry. :embarrassed2:

I'd like to play the next time I'm in the Big Easy with some spare time. Also look me up if you ever make it to Colorado.

Thanks for the great thread. I love the "what would you do here?" threads, especially the ones from Neil. I think I've learned more from these threads than any others.

Regards,
Dave

You must have posted before reading my last post. We're all good. I was just teasing you. I hoped you would know that.

Joey
 
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