Me and my league teammates were talking about how much money the pros make from their sponsorships. Anybody here know what the average endorsement deal is and what other perks come with it? We all always talk about how theres no money in pool but if the pros are still getting sponsored then there has to be some money right? Like what is a Cuetec sponsorship worth or even a Lucasi deal? My teammates were assuming it had to be in the six figure range, but I'm assuming its probably more in the $40,000-$50,000. Anybody have any guesses? Hopefully, this isn't like a taboo subject but we all know what football players or baseball players make so I am just curious.
What do you get from being sponsored?
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MartinBullet
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Thought I'd come in on this, just speaking from personal experience the differences in sponsorship are enormous, one company may be willing to provide you with free equipment, another may be willing to pay your tournament entry fees, travel/accommodation etc.
Some companies are also willing to pay you a salary depending on how big your "name" is.
That's generally the reason the pros have more than one sponsor, look at the likes of Darren Appleton (Predator, Yalin etc) and Ralf Souquet (Predator, Universal, Simonis).
From a personal point of view, with the sponsorships I have I do get provided with equipment and tournament fees & travel/accommodation paid for, so it's not actually costing me anything to play in tournaments, but I have to have decent finishes in tournaments to make any additional $$, which is the reason I also have a full time job.
With that in mind I'd probably guess that the total of my sponsorships is worth about £5,000-£6,000 (around $10,000) to me.
Hope this helps!!
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Thought I'd come in on this, just speaking from personal experience the differences in sponsorship are enormous, one company may be willing to provide you with free equipment, another may be willing to pay your tournament entry fees, travel/accommodation etc.
Some companies are also willing to pay you a salary depending on how big your "name" is.
That's generally the reason the pros have more than one sponsor, look at the likes of Darren Appleton (Predator, Yalin etc) and Ralf Souquet (Predator, Universal, Simonis).
From a personal point of view, with the sponsorships I have I do get provided with equipment and tournament fees & travel/accommodation paid for, so it's not actually costing me anything to play in tournaments, but I have to have decent finishes in tournaments to make any additional $$, which is the reason I also have a full time job.
With that in mind I'd probably guess that the total of my sponsorships is worth about £5,000-£6,000 (around $10,000) to me.
Hope this helps!!
If you re in such a situation, you are already one of the *lucky ones*.
The most sponsorships are based on equipment etc. --
A true sponsorshiip should include that could pay the traveling, living in hotel etc.- and if you re really a well known professional, then money also should come into the ring.
In pool-billiards are very rare professionals who ever had a really god contract. And if oyu then would start to count the guy, who could live a year, without winning bigger tournaments...............-i wish you a nice *long time research*
TheThaiger
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Thought I'd come in on this, just speaking from personal experience the differences in sponsorship are enormous, one company may be willing to provide you with free equipment, another may be willing to pay your tournament entry fees, travel/accommodation etc.
Some companies are also willing to pay you a salary depending on how big your "name" is.
That's generally the reason the pros have more than one sponsor, look at the likes of Darren Appleton (Predator, Yalin etc) and Ralf Souquet (Predator, Universal, Simonis).
From a personal point of view, with the sponsorships I have I do get provided with equipment and tournament fees & travel/accommodation paid for, so it's not actually costing me anything to play in tournaments, but I have to have decent finishes in tournaments to make any additional $$, which is the reason I also have a full time job.
With that in mind I'd probably guess that the total of my sponsorships is worth about £5,000-£6,000 (around $10,000) to me.
Hope this helps!!
Would you mind breaking down what the $10k a year pays for? Is table time included in that, or is it just entry fees, travel/accommodation etc? What do you get from Kamui, for instance?
MartinBullet
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I'm afraid I can't go into contract specifics on the forum but I can try and give you a "breakdown"?
Equipment - $3,000
Tournament entry fees - $2,000
Travel to and from tournaments - $1,500
Accommodation - $3,500
I normally car share with a friend so the travel isn't that expensive, the things that really hit me are the tournament fees and the accommodation.
With regards to equipment, it depends, I may be given specific equipment and told I must use it, or I could be provided with other things to try (new cues, tip tools etc)
In all fairness the equipment I already have can get the job done, but I've included it as a figure here for the reason I'm asked to try out new things
Also, just to mention table time as I haven't mentioned it before now, my local pool room gives me free table time when I go along so I've hit lucky in that aspect, and I will happily wear their logo on my shirt if they get their finger out and get the patches made up!!!
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TheThaiger
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I'm afraid I can't go into contract specifics on the forum but I can try and give you a "breakdown"?
Equipment - $3,000
Tournament entry fees - $2,000
Travel to and from tournaments - $1,500
Accommodation - $3,500
I normally car share with a friend so the travel isn't that expensive, the things that really hit me are the tournament fees and the accommodation.
With regards to equipment, it depends, I may be given specific equipment and told I must use it, or I could be provided with other things to try (new cues, tip tools etc)
In all fairness the equipment I already have can get the job done, but I've included it as a figure here for the reason I'm asked to try out new things
Also, just to mention table time as I haven't mentioned it before now, my local pool room gives me free table time when I go along so I've hit lucky in that aspect, and I will happily wear their logo on my shirt if they get their finger out and get the patches made up!!!
Thanks. So it's $10k EXCLUDING table time? That's a lot of money for travel, entry fees and accommodation - you're on the Euro Tour, presumably? What other comps do you play in?
And $3k for equipment is a lot of tips and tip tools - you must be sponsored by a cue company, surely?
My experience with sponsors is not that big but I used to have table time paid by my poolroom and travel also. Equipment is offered buy a well known american company as I am representing their products. No accomodation fees, no salary, no tourneys fee. I am not complaining, it helps to have someone backing you up these days, even if this will be for no morebrhan 5000$ per year (at most).
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MartinBullet
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I play quite a few regional flyers and the intention is to join both GB9 and the Eurotour this year (in all fairness I haven't been playing American Pool that long, transition from English Pool, long story etc etc!)
You're quite right, Geordie Pool do make cues, although they specialise in English Pool and Snooker. With them not having that much experience of the American Billiards industry a lot of the things they're making at the moment is experimental, but fun to try out!
And it also seems that prices over here in Jolly Old England (it's raining again today) are a lot more expensive than they would be accross the pond, for example a brand new production Poison Arsenic 5 (Rodney Morris signature) is £379. In Dollars that's about £601.
Isn't the EUR/USD conversion rate is currently @ 1.2688, which would translate 5-6,000 Euros into $6,344 - $7,612?
J
MartinBullet
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Maybe but we don't use the Euro in the UK, it's still the Great British Pound (GBP)
Rate is currently 1.58735
MartinBullet
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Of course you don't! That will teach me to try and think before 9:00 AM.
J
Haha, don't worry about it
It's 2pm over here so I've been at work for about 5 hours oh joy!
I imagine the lower sponsorships are mainly just equipment and travel expensives and tourney entry fees with the higher ones being a yearly salary as well.
Of course with this the player being sponsored should be expected to act professional is all situations where they could be representing the sponsor and attempt to perform to the best of their abilities in such situations... this is why some players would lose their sponsorship...
Of course with this the player being sponsored should be expected to act professional is all situations where they could be representing the sponsor and attempt to perform to the best of their abilities in such situations... this is why some players would lose their sponsorship...
MartinBullet
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Agreed, when you're a sponsored player you need to remember that you're not just representing yourself, you're representing the company/brand that has put enough faith in you to sponsor you.
That is why so many tournaments have rules regarding talking about sponsors, all it would take is for one player to make an ignorant comment that gets out and the company sponsoring the tour could pull out of the sponsorship completely.
I think the bottom end, I mean the very bottom end is a player wears a patch as a favor or just to be nice to someone. The best sponsorship of recent times was held by Corey Duel, I heard that he does not have it anymore but he was getting over $100k salary, all travel expenses and entry fees.
Most others get a cue or two and a couple of cases. I thing Cuetec pay a decent amount too.
Most others get a cue or two and a couple of cases. I thing Cuetec pay a decent amount too.
Steamer Cue Sports Ltd. is proud to say that each and every player we sponsor, is given a tee-shirt, and our best wishes. :smile:
