What do you guys think of this estimate?

rykr01 said:
Yes, will need new cushions. And I plan to use superspeeds. Yes, will be extending the cushions so only a single cushion facing is needed.
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There is a member here in the mechanics section, I think his name is Zach, that will do all that work if you ship him the rails. That could be another option. I don't know his price, but a few members here used his service and were very happy.
 
iusedtoberich said:
There is a member here in the mechanics section, I think his name is Zach, that will do all that work if you ship him the rails. That could be another option. I don't know his price, but a few members here used his service and were very happy.
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Shipping rails is an expensive proposition and you need to build a crate for them to ensure they don't get damaged.
 
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Price.... if a mech can do a perfect job ... pay him and thank him. I posted this before but here it is again.
New table delivered and set up $500.
Had to do the cloth over from a different mechanic...
New cloth $400
9 hours travel time and labor $900.

Still has flaws. How much is a perfect job worth... however a detective is needed to find one.
 
if you are going to pay close to a third the cost of a new table its better to sell the old one and just get exactly what you want.
 
rykr01 said:
I got the following estimate on my GC3. What do you guys think?

Assemble table - $600
Recover (including rails) with Simonis 860 - $800
New k55 rubber installed - $650
Cut rail liners to proper angle for new rubber (not sure what this is) - $150
Close pockets to my spec - $250
Replace chrome rail trim (I provide the trim) - $100

I haven't worked with a table mechanic so not sure if these prices are inline.
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Depends on who's doing the work?
 
The price is a bit high but other bids you get could be higher or of questionable workmanship quality.
Ask for references……his last 3 Gold Crown tables or at least his last six tables but make sure to get
recent (2024) references. $2600 (rounded) seems high & is sales tax included and what’s the warranty?
 
I agree with others that the prices seem to be too high. The price for recovering my gold crown 3 with simonis 860 HR cloth was $575. I also replaced the rails and have the pockets cut down to 8 and 3/8, which brought the total up to $900. By the way I live in the Washington DC area.
 
I don't think location has much of anything to do with the price on pool table work. The materials such as Simonis, SuperSpeed (or whatever brand you like) cushions, etc., cost the same wherever you are in the USA. They all come from the same distributors. It's just up to the mechanic what he charges for his time.

Edit, outside of super high price areas like maybe NYC, etc. Most of the rest of the country the cost of living is fairly close.
 
sbrownn said:
Don't have experience with most of these items but your 2nd and 3rd list items I do, including:

- 3 league Valley 8 footers done in western Washington (near Seattle) with new K55 rails, re-felt including Simonis 860 was just over $1000 per table out the door just over a year ago, including reducing the rail pocket width a little and leveling. cannot remember if new plastic pockets were included.
- Global 8 footer in western Washington (near Seattle) re-felted including Simonis 860 was $500, including leveling (table was quite level before). no new plastic pockets.

I think both of these are quite good deals, the 2nd one being surprisingly good. And the company that did the second job (Clark Billiard Services) either had a 90 mile drive from their location or a 60 mile drive including ferry fees and wait times. They did an excellent job, and again, included the price for new Simonis 860 felt and installation (like the first job, which is not by done by Clark).

So, in a nutshell, I think your estimate is way too high, especially given the cost of living in the Seattle area, which is usually only second to California (SF Bay Area and LA area) and east coast cost of living...
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1k per table? I understand 8 ft a bit more cloth and 860. You have a pretty good profit margin on that for sure.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I don't think location has much of anything to do with the price on pool table work. The materials such as Simonis, SuperSpeed (or whatever brand you like) cushions, etc., cost the same wherever you are in the USA. They all come from the same distributors. It's just up to the mechanic what he charges for his time.

Edit, outside of super high price areas like maybe NYC, etc. Most of the rest of the country the cost of living is fairly close.
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The materials costs don't vary by location, but the labor costs do.
 
rykr01 said:
I got the following estimate on my GC3. What do you guys think?

Assemble table - $600
Recover (including rails) with Simonis 860 - $800
New k55 rubber installed - $650
Cut rail liners to proper angle for new rubber (not sure what this is) - $150
Close pockets to my spec - $250
Replace chrome rail trim (I provide the trim) - $100

I haven't worked with a table mechanic so not sure if these prices are inline.
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So he has quoted you $2550 for the entire job and $1400 for just assembly and recover with Simonis, even if you get nothing else done? That’s a ridiculous price.

Assembling and recovering should be one single price, and should be no more than $800-$900, even if he’s supplying the Simonis.

The Simonis cloth costs the installer roughly $300 and the rubber roughly $200 if they are Brunswick Superspeed, so basically he’s charging you $2k for one day of labor for a qualified installer working by himself.
 
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Stickman9 said:
The materials costs don't vary by location, but the labor costs do.
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Right. But it’s not a night and day difference. If you go to McDonald’s or a chain steak house, the price is almost the same nationwide.

I had an interview for a job in NYC, and the pay was the same as what I was making in Philly. (Same job at similar sized company).

I could see location affecting price 10-15%. But not double. That’s just the worker charging more (which I think is 100% fine).
 
iusedtoberich said:
Right. But it’s not a night and day difference. If you go to McDonald’s or a chain steak house, the price is almost the same nationwide.

I had an interview for a job in NYC, and the pay was the same as what I was making in Philly. (Same job at similar sized company).

I could see location affecting price 10-15%. But not double. That’s just the worker charging more (which I think is 100% fine).
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Don't forget fuel costs too. That varies WIDELY across the ocuntry. We have no idea how far this guy has to drive to do the work.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Right. But it’s not a night and day difference. If you go to McDonald’s or a chain steak house, the price is almost the same nationwide.

I had an interview for a job in NYC, and the pay was the same as what I was making in Philly. (Same job at similar sized company).

I could see location affecting price 10-15%. But not double. That’s just the worker charging more (which I think is 100% fine).
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I recently became aware pay bump for NYC area is +13% of DC rate for a specific (BiG) employer.
 
rykr01 said:
I've heard good things about a guy in the Nashville area named Tim Seisser. He works with Sam Rowland. Sam has done good work for me in the past.
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Enjoy the table...happiness is a GoldCrown.
 
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