Especially on a big box unless its 1pocket.
What does Team USA’s Mosconi Cup future look like?
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You dont actually believe this do you?
There aren't any, none, zero.
Shane is the only player in the US that has a chance playing the euros, possibly Bergman
They must be REALLY good at hiding out.
yeh that ridiculous notion is well supported by fargorate, wpa ranking and every other statistical measure available. not only could europe field two or more teams with a fair chance to win the cup, one could even narrow it down to one or two single countries (austria + germany or russia + uk) that would have a decent chance
I'd say SVB, JB and Skyler could if they played that level of comp. all the time. They'd almost have to move there to have any chance.
Not to mention Poland. There are some STOUT Polish players already and more coming up.
I still want to know who these players are that are as good as SVB and the Europeans, and that are able to hide their skill so well that they make more money from hustling! First, how have we in the pool community not heard of these master hustlers and second, who the hell is gambling with them and losing to them so that they can make more money than the top players in the game? Who are these fish that are paying out? Surely these matches would have been streamed with today’s technology!
Exactly. Maybe there are some stealth pool players that only a few truly tuned in people can see.
They all need to save up about $25,000 each and go to the Philippines for several months.
Live cheap with the locals and play all the Filipino young guns everyday until they can beat them convincingly.
If they can not do that, they most likely will never reach world-class level.
But who are they gambling with? They’re gambling ninjas!Exactly. Maybe there are some stealth pool players that only a few truly tuned in people can see.
Lol, these undercover agents are great at hiding their skill....AND their $$$$, LOLOLOL. They hide it so well in fact that they continue to hide it well into their twilight years when most would wish to appear to be retiring. I'll tell you what, in 17 years when I'm 60, I'll retire and you guys can guess as to whether or not I'm faking it. LOLOLOLOL
I've donated to some great pool players before if you know what I mean. It felt like donating, I assure you.
I think this romanticized pool hustler notion is reinforced by the mythology associated with the gunslingers and settlers in the American west. Rugged individualists, survivors, etc. I'd say those folks back then were lucky to subsist. Nevertheless, it sounds good, no doubt. Just like many would be modern era "gunslingers" really just mostly watch TV and buy cheap Chinese sh$t at the Walmart.
If you make your living at pool, hustling or otherwise, your damn lucky.
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I believe there’s a lot of good players that aren't well known, but they are just good, not top class players. I start making stats for players on instagram, it might be interesting to someone.
Sheer and utter dominance by Team Europe this year! They were favored and the way they played, were well deserved winners. Can’t see the USA coming up with a team to challenge this one. I say let’s go with the young guns. Skyler, Billy, Tyler, Chris and ???. Can’t be any worse!
This isn't the 90s anymore. Plenty of Euros gamble and big.
And none of the players that get selected for the US team have to worry about hiding their game, because anyone who follows pool knows who they are.
They should sneak into Taiwan in disguises and try to rob some of those Taiwanese players. I am sure they can get all they can stand without hiding.
They shouldn’t need disguises because nobody has ever seen these gambling ninjas!
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Mosconi Cup level. Not world-class level. They would have to go to China.
Let me understand what you’re saying...you’re saying that Philippinos are not world class players, only Mosconi cup level?
I didn`t find time to reply yesterday, but here are my thoughts:
The European Championships have developed into a very important tournament because they bring fame to the winners and fame equals governmental funding and sponsorship contracts. I agree that this develops better rounded players, since every discipline is a chance to raise into the elite group of players who don`t have to worry about money and can focus on just playing pool.
The German league is the strongest league in the world today, but this is a quite recent development. Ortmann, Souquet, Eckert, Engert and maybe even Hohmann are not products of a league system, but come from the same pool playing background as their American counterparts. Bars, smoke, a certain Tom Cruise movie and yes, even gambling.
But even then, the Germans were far ahead of their time in pool Europe with Tom Storm and maybe Austria´s Werner Duregger, who came close to something you can call a professional level. It wasn`t only marketing reasons to put a lot of snooker players into the early MC teams, it was the fact that nearly all of Europe was in the middle of stone age when it came to pool.
But at this time two very important things happened:
First of all some players realized the importance of a clean image if you want to be seen as an athlete and as you know Souquet and Eckert are still raw models for pool players today and someone like Jasmin Ouschan living this attitude to perfection.
Secondly other players realized if they want to learn and become better, they have to go to the place on earth were the best pool is played. So Mika, Thorsten, Allison Fisher, Gerda Hofstätter and even Nils Feijen in his early years came to the US.
...and time after time the Dutch developed their pool programm, Polish player became better and better, German League, the Austrians could build on Jasmin`s popularity and so on and so on.
I also have a little bit different opinion on the impact of Snooker, English 8ball and Pyramid on the European Pool scene. I think it is more of an indirect influence or better said it HAD an indirect influence.
It is very true that these games develop straight shooters, which lead to very successful players on the European pool scene. But the main consequences were, that the "real" pool players had to think about how they still can compete with those new opponents. So they for themselves became straighter shooters, worked harder on their basics and tried to master the pool specific skills like the break, jumps, banks and kicks the former snooker and pyramid players were missing. Which lead to players like Mark Gray, Tony Drago, Daryl Peach, Imran Majid, Boyes or Stalev slowly disappearing from the leaderboards.