What exactly is a 3, 6, 18 pack

To me, running packages involves how many games did you win in a row without your opponent getting to the table.

So if my opponent broke, scratched or broke dry and I ran out that rack and broke and ran the next rack without him getting to the table, I consider this a 2 pack, and so on.

If for example my opponent breaks, runs out to the 9 ball, misses it, I sink the 9 to win that rack and break and run the next rack I only consider this the first of the pack, not a 2 pack.
 
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Gatz said:
So if my opponent broke, scratched or broke dry and I ran out that rack and broke and ran the next rack without him getting to the table, I consider this a 2 pack, and so on.
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Since this is the very definition of my one and only 2 pack, I agree with Gatz! :)
 
Celtic said:
Thing is with what Cornerman says a package becomes meaningless because of it's subjective nature. I have probably had a 30+ pack by what Cornerman goes by, but it is a worthless stat gained by beating up on a bunch of hackers.
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Then you clearly misread my post.

Fred
 
Neil said:
Actually, if you read what Cornerman said, and what Celtic said, they only differ by the possibility of one rack. Cornerman says your pack starts when you get to the table, Celtic says it starts when you break. They both agree that your opponent cannot get to the table during the package run.
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It's all about reading, Neil. Thanks.

The other half of what I'm saying is that it's about wins (and yes, wins without your opponent coming to the table). So, a break and run, an early 9, and a 9-ball on the break all count towards the package count. A guy who break and runs 3, then snaps in the 9, then break and runs another 2, it's fair to say that he hit his opponent with a 6-pack. He didn't break and run 6 in a row in 9-ball, but as I said in my previously unread post, that wasn't the question.

Counting the game that he steps up to the table is the debate, I guess. In the end, it never really matters as along as people clarify.

Fred
 
From what I've understood it to mean over the years on here, a package consists solely of bnr's. If you are playing a match against somebody, that means any bnr is now a 2-pack because you won the break on your last shot? Nonono. Having a BCA "ero" is debatable, but in general I've taken it to mean strictly bnr's - never thought to consider the 9/8 break, though.
 
I have put MANY 1/2 packs together :p

I am probably the king of the "HALF PACK"
 
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dabarbr said:
some of us will disagree in the part of not counting the first runout from the opponents break if nothing was made on the break. I believe it is still a runout and should be part of the package.
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The reason I don't count it is because it makes the rule VERY objective, a package is games won where you opponent never got to the table, period. Easy. If the opponent broke then they did get to the table and they did have a chance to win.

The way I see a package is that it is pure offense that your opponent has no hope to stop. You put a 4-pack on a guy he had no chance in those 4 games, he sat and watched you run them. Now IF you include the opening game where the opponent broke? He had a chance there, he got to that table, maybe he broke dry, maybe he scratched off the break, whatever, but IMO that is not part of the package you put on the guy because he got to that table.
 
Celtic said:
The reason I don't count it is because it makes the rule VERY objective, a package is games won where you opponent never got to the table, period. Easy. If the opponent broke then they did get to the table and they did have a chance to win.

The way I see a package is that it is pure offense that your opponent has no hope to stop. You put a 4-pack on a guy he had no chance in those 4 games, he sat and watched you run them. Now IF you include the opening game where the opponent broke? He had a chance there, he got to that table, maybe he broke dry, maybe he scratched off the break, whatever, but IMO that is not part of the package you put on the guy because he got to that table.
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I can understand you're reasoning but I would see if differently.

Going by your standard you just put a little hole in my bubble. I once played a match of seven ahead and my opponent was on case game when he broke dry. I then won the set with him not getting back to the table. By your standard I only put a 12 package together and not the 13 that I thought I did. I rather keep thinking that I did 13. This I think would be a matter of personal opinion.
 
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