cardiac kid said:
You noticed the bitterness of some of the posters? If tomorrow morning, the UPA announced a ten event, $100,000 added per event tour, the same posters would be ravaging the UPA for the exact same things they do now.
The male pool players who paid their $100 to the UPA, never to hear from them again, are a very small minority of the pool-playing public, as you know, Cardiac Kid.
If you would like some clarification, why don't you talk to Danny "Kid Delicious" Basavich or Evan Broxmeyer, two UPA touring pros, about their experiences with the UPA as it pertains to their membership and communication.
The UPA took monies from pool players who had aspirations to compete at a higher level, who believed the UPA when they signed the legally binding contract that there would be a men's tour, who were hoping to be treated fairly and equitably. Yet, the UPA took their monies, posted as many names on their website as possible from the monies collected, and NEVER communicated with these pool players again.
cardiac kid said:
If I didn't know better, I'd swear that one of the posters is Earl or Corey or one of the other infamous five contract holdouts that Manlyshot keeps reminding us of.
It doesn't matter if I am the King of Siam, Cardiac Kid. Again, the male professional pool players are a minority in the mix of things. Just because you may have communication with Robert Lipson or Marty R. becuase of your residence being in Rochester, it doesn't excuse the fact that this organization has totally ignored its membership with the exception of friends of player representatives.
cardiac kid said:
Not to confuse you, the contract the women sign is exactly the same one the men are requested to sign.
And after the women's organization collected the monies, they remained in contact with their members. The UPA had prospective members sign a contract that would bring monies into the UPA organization. You would think they would want to keep their membership happy and informed, but this has not occurred. Now they want to promote a pool game on a cell phone with the likenesses of its membership. Sorry, Cardiac Kid, but I don't think I will be purchasing a cell phone pool game with your likeness. If the UPA has communicated with you, you're a lucky fellow.
cardiac kid said:
I have, on several other occasions, asked what these critical posters have done to help advance the game of men's billiards at the professional level. To his credit, Gremlin has done everything possible to promote the women. I know of nothing the others have done for the game other than bitch.
If I were to pay a membership fee to ANY organization, I would at least expect to be kept informed by the administration, either through e-mail, a newsletter, or by phone. Gremlin's contributions to the women's organization may be magnificant in your eyes, Cardiac Kid, but to some of the lady players, as evidenced by some of the posts on this forum, they feel they are being stalked, find him annoying, and actually try to avoid him.
cardiac kid said:
I agree with the communications part. I have not received my membership renewal notice from the UPA. My renewal date was July 1st. I met the new UPA President here in Rochester last month. He assured me mine was ready for mailing.
How lucky you are to live in Rochester, Cardiac Kid. For the rest of the paying UPA members who live around the country, unless they are friends of UPA player representatives, they never heard from the UPA again after the UPA took their monies and used their name on their website to give the appearance of an organization with a full membership.
I would like to see a real men's tour, but it isn't happening with the current six-tournament UPA tour, with an invitational BCA Open being one of them. For the UPA members who are not friends with the UPA player representatives, the ones whose names are used on the UPA website to give a false impression of unity, they feel like they have been ripped off when they signed the legally binding contract and paid their $100 in good faith for membership into an organization to promote men's pool.
The proof is in the pudding when next year the UPA ranking points will determine who is qualified to compete at the BCA Open or WPC. The UPA ranking system is flawed and should not be used as a measuring stick to determine qualifications for high-profile tournaments. The UPA has not communicated with its membership throughout this year. Again, the only ones affected are a small minority, those dumb enough to believe that when they joined the UPA, paid the $100, signed a legally binding contract, that they would belong to a men's organization looking out for their interests.
And your theory, Cardiac Kid, is if they feel they got ripped off, they should go out and promote a $100,000 tournament or a men's tour if they can't do a better job. Shame on you!
