What I think the pro game should be.

Pro game

Well the pros should be playing on tough equipment but on the other hand what makes pool exciting to watch are the run outs in 9ball and large runs in 14.1 so I don't think these size pockets would be good for the game. I for one wouldn't want to watch guys make a couple balls and then miss and sit down again, it would be pretty boring to watch if you asked me.
 
Tclark5 said:
Well the pros should be playing on tough equipment but on the other hand what makes pool exciting to watch are the run outs in 9ball and large runs in 14.1 so I don't think these size pockets would be good for the game. I for one wouldn't want to watch guys make a couple balls and then miss and sit down again, it would be pretty boring to watch if you asked me.
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On the point about missing I have to disagree. What's boring is watching an hour full of break and runs. No tension, no drama and the viewing public begins to believe the game is too easy.
 
I believe this was said elsewhere in another thread but the viewing public always believes they can accomplish what they see. That's the nature of being a professional; making the difficult seem easy. Even if you reduced the size of the pockets and made it harder; more players would step up and "make it seem easy" when they play.

This can go for any sport.
 
p00lp00l said:
Why change the ball color, what does that accomplish? Don't agree with any of it :\
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Have you ever noticed when you are watching a televised or streamed match that it is difficult to tell which ball is which? The better the color contrast between balls the easier it is for the viewer to figure out what is happening. :thumbup:
 
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Equipment is already getting tougher all the time. To use rounded points and a larger table is a strange idea imo.

Isn't there already a game which uses equipment similar to what you show in your video???

Dud
 
Dudley said:
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Equipment is already getting tougher all the time. To use rounded points and a larger table is a strange idea imo.

Isn't there already a game which uses equipment similar to what you show in your video???

Dud
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If you prefer to play on a 7 foot valley with buckets you will not have a hard time finding it. I am not suggesting that the tables that league pool is played on should be changed. I am suggesting a change in the pro televised game. And yes, in case you haven't noticed the pro game is broke.
 
mnorwood said:
If you prefer to play on a 7 foot valley with buckets you will not have a hard time finding it. I am not suggesting that the tables that league pool is played on should be changed. I am suggesting a change in the pro televised game. And yes, in case you haven't noticed the pro game is broke.
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I don't play on buckets nor do I think pro events should be on buckets.

Where did I say I play league?

In my neck of the woods we play on 4.25" pockets on gold crown 3's. (4.5' X 9')

Do you think the public would like watching balls not go in over and over again? Or even worse the pros playing safe after safe because there are tied up balls or pockets?

How many pro televised events are there anyway? I can only think of the WPBA tournaments. This is something that I would like to see changed. It would be great to see a men's pro tour again. (10 ball preferably)

Dud
 
Dudley said:
I don't play on buckets nor do I think pro events should be on buckets.

Where did I say I play league?

In my neck of the woods we play on 4.25" pockets on gold crown 3's. (4.5' X 9')

Do you think the public would like watching balls not go in over and over again? Or even worse the pros playing safe after safe because there are tied up balls or pockets?

How many pro televised events are there anyway? I can only think of the WPBA tournaments. This is something that I would like to see changed. It would be great to see a men's pro tour again. (10 ball preferably)

Dud
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Hey Dud,
To me I think there has to be a reason that snooker reached the heights of T.V. ratings that it did while pool has always struggled.

You know poker didn't get big until it introduced the pocket card camera. Pool just needs to change some things to appeal to the average viewer.

A larger table gives the viewer more to look at. The red and yellow balls make it easy to understand the table layout, 8 ball is common to everyone.

Your league sounds like the nuts, wish there was one like that around these parts. :thumbup:
 
mnorwood said:
Hey Dud,
To me I think there has to be a reason that snooker reached the heights of T.V. ratings that it did while pool has always struggled.

You know poker didn't get big until it introduced the pocket card camera. Pool just needs to change some things to appeal to the average viewer.

A larger table gives the viewer more to look at. The red and yellow balls make it easy to understand the table layout, 8 ball is common to everyone.

Your league sounds like the nuts, wish there was one like that around these parts. :thumbup:
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Well I hear what you are saying but the poolplayer in me would have a really hard time agreeing with you.

I like one pocket and 10 ball. I wish I could watch one pocket on television but I don't think the game is very marketable to the public.

(I don't play league)

I am a tournament player/pool hall bum when I am not at work.

Dudley
 
"To me I think there has to be a reason that snooker reached the heights of T.V. ratings that it did while pool has always struggled."

this quote itself shows where this idea is coming from, Europe. Your trying to turn pool into snooker, which was NEVER been a TV game in the US. The pockets,table and colored balls lol. You think we should change our game to better suit your snooker players liking. I get it.
 
ummm...

1. 5 x 10 table, ok I could see that being an idea.
2. isn't there already a game that uses yellow, red, and the black ball.
3. tiny pockets really really REALLY, just as buckets are crap so is a thimble could a size in the 4.75 to 4.25 just be agreed on.

Thats all I have for now, I'm sure I'll come up with more later.

Vince
 
If by "what the pro game should be" you mean, how to make certain the best eight ball player wins then yes you are on to something.

As long as you don't care at all about ratings and money and success then yes you've got it.

If you have the viewer and advertising dollars in mind then you are wrong and not unlike most non business savvy pool enthusiasts.
 
Pool is supposed to be a different game than Snooker or Russian Pyramid. It's not supposed to be difficult to pocket balls. The defining characteristic of pool is it's artistry in the complex position play and the imagination that is required to play at the top level. You don't see nearly as much of that in Snooker or Russian Pyramid simply because it's harder to pocket a ball.

If pool was changed to this, I wouldn't play it. I'd just stick to Snooker.
 
Not too tight, just right

Out here in Seattle the two main rooms for Tacoma and Seattle play on Diamonds and modified Gold Crowns with Diamond rubber and 4-3/8 pockets. For Pros defeinetly need the tight pockets and 5x10 would separate the pack. Most tournaments are on tables with tight pockets anyway aren't they? One problem that I see is that social players don't understand big tables and tight pockets and if the players aren't running out then the audience may not get it. So from an audience stand point and promoting the pro players it's something to think about.

Would you or would you know anyone interested in playing a weekly 10ball vs the ghost tournament. It's a new tour with a unique format that enables us to play weekly national tournaments west coast to east coast. The official website is just about ready to lauch that has all the players stats, match scores and tournaments results. It has 6 divisions so everyone will fit in somewhere. Two of the divisions are handicapped if you're interested in that. There's a waiting list for the semi-pro and pro divisions for players wanting to play upper level scratch. We've been playing it out here on the west coast for about 7 months and it's going great. We're ready to spread our wings. Looking for rooms and players to get involved. Weekly $10 entry fee. The purses are going to grow big!

There's more info on the temp site at www.behindtherocktour.com
There's also contact info there for anyone who wants know more.
 
I disagree.

In other Sports or Games, the amateurs & professionals play on the same "field of play"
 
ceebee said:
I disagree.

In other Sports or Games, the amateurs & professionals play on the same "field of play"
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I agree with this. Of course there are easier and harder golf course for instance, but I think most people realize just how good the pros are. If the pro pool tournaments were never going to be televised, then I can see tougher equipment. Maybe not a 5x10, but tight pockets and so. This would make the game tougher, and the better player would usually win. However, I don't know if this would be a good idea if aired to the general public. If the pros are missing shots that a banger can make on a bar table, then why would they watch guys plays that they do not think play very good. The majority of the average people would rather watch trickshots, because it may look more difficult, and something that they could never do, even if we, as pool players, may know better.
 
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