What is confidence?

An unwavering belief in yourself and your abilities no matter the circumstances. I've been stuck like a pig at points in many match ups over the years & turned the match around and prevailed because I just play the shot in front of me instead of focusing on where the match stands at any given point. My perception is that no matter how bad it gets you're only one shot away From flipping it around. It's served me well.
 
An unwavering belief in yourself and your abilities no matter the circumstances. I've been stuck like a pig at points in many match ups over the years & turned the match around and prevailed because I just play the shot in front of me instead of focusing on where the match stands at any given point. My perception is that no matter how bad it gets you're only one shot away From flipping it around. It's served me well.

Yeah that's the same idea. You focus on what you have got to do. You don't worry about what happens if you don't. The time to worry has passed once you are in the game or once you have decided on the shot... it's time to play or shoot.

If you know it is possible and you focus on achieving it then I think the result should be confidence. If someones focus drifts of into well it is possible but... then they are not going to feel it.
 
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Confidence quite simply is believing in yourself.

This isn't a simple, oh I believe in myself. It is an inherent knowledge that you can do what you want to do when you NEED to do it.

I used to have it when I was younger and I have been recently building it back.

When you're younger though it comes more from a naivete than from a true understanding.

This past weekend when I was playing Mika for the first money position in the swannee, I had it at the beginning of the match, but then certain things conspired for me to lose it a bit and tense up.

I've had to work at it pretty hard to really get it and I get closer to keeping it every time I get that experience against the legends of the game.

Hearing people talk about me, or who come up to me after the match and say how they love my game or ask me how I do certain things also contributes to it.

People talk about paying your dues and getting the experience and I think that it's all of these things that add up to EARNING that confidence that allows you to play with fearlessness.

I think that many younger players that compete great and then seem to fall off later on don't really have that true EARNED confidence, instead they had been relying on that false naivete inspired confidence and it works against them as they grow in the game.

I'll say that I often got frustrated that I would be able to do things on the table that even great players couldn't and then wouldn't be able to do those things in competition. Or like many people, you do those great things and then turn around and flub an easy shot.

Then when I heard that Oscar was starting the Mezz West State Tour, I thought this is it. I'm either going to get the experience and work through this or I'm going to accept that I won't ever get there.

Competing in this tour against some of the best players has inspired a confidence in my game that I haven't had since I was young. It isn't fully realized yet. I found that out playing against Mika, Bustamante, Ernesto, Oscar, Vilmos, Ruben, Ramon Mistica etc... but it's improving and as I pay my dues and get closer to consistently competing at the level I can play at, that confidence improves more and more.

So I guess what I'm saying is that there are two different types of confidence. There is a naive confidence that comes from youth and lack of experience and there is an experience driven confidence that is the driving force behind the best players around.

I can only hope to fully realize that second type of confidence and can be glad I have at least gotten past that first type of confidence.

Jaden

There is no doubt that experience and having proved to yourself that you can do it increases ones confidence.

P.S. The hair joke was hilarious.
 
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Cause, ya see, twice, Sarah... once at Ames with Minnesota Fats and then again at Arthur's, in that cheap, crummy pool room, now why'd I do it, Sarah? Why'd I do it? I coulda beat that guy, coulda beat 'im cold, he never woulda known. But I just hadda show 'im. Just hadda show those creeps and those punks what the game is like when it's great, when it's REALLY great. You know, like anything can be great, anything can be great. I don't care, BRICKLAYING can be great, if a guy knows. If he knows what he's doing and why and if he can make it come off. When I'm goin', I mean, when I'm REALLY goin' I feel like a... like a jockey must feel. He's sittin' on his horse, he's got all that speed and that power underneath him... he's comin' into the stretch, the pressure's on 'im, and he KNOWS... just feels... when to let it go and how much. Cause he's got everything workin' for 'im: timing, touch. It's a great feeling, boy, it's a real great feeling when you're right and you KNOW you're right. It's like all of a sudden I got oil in my arm. The pool cue's part of me. You know, it's uh - pool cue, it's got nerves in it. It's a piece of wood, it's got nerves in it. Feel the roll of those balls, you don't have to look, you just KNOW. You make shots that nobody's ever made before. I can play that game the way... NOBODY'S ever played it before.


This is what I think it is...
 
We actually can't control our feelings and emotions - we can control our attitude

That is a great distinction. To me confidence is a trust that you are going to get it done. I think true confidence is possible on a 50/50 shot with proper focus.

Self-confidence to me is when you are sure that you will eventually get this. Self confident people take steps outside of their comfort zones for instance but in this case I am wondering about true confidence during the shot.

Do you think it is possible to have true confidence in a shot that has a chance to be missed?

Self-confidence as far as pool is concerned is a state of mind, essential for success and achievement - it's also related to a positive attitude.

We actually can't control our feelings and emotions, however, we can control our attitude through experience, willingness and confirmation.

Feeling and emotions are like conscious thoughts, they come and go like the wind - although with the right attitude they won't have much effect over us.....without an effective attitude players are a victim of circumstances governed by their own perceptions. 'The Game is our Teacher'
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Self-confidence is making a ten dollar bet on a game of One Pocket when you only have five in your wallet. :)
 
I'm not so sure youse guys know what you're talkin' about....
...so I went to see an expert...

...he's well known as a Confidence Man.

So far, I own a share in the Brooklyn Bridge....
...some slightly damp estate in Florida...
....some shares in Bitcoin...
...and I'm getting delivered the table Willie ran the 526 on.


I'M GONNA BE RICH! :happydance::happydance::happydance:
 
I'd say that confidence is your own estimation of both your ability to do something and to control the outcome that you desire.

If you estimate your ability to do something and then feel that you have enough control to produce that "something" then I'd say that you're confident.

Obviously this is confidence in a situation by situation example but I feel that it's how confidence works =P
 
I think confidence is a personality trait that often beats the odds of reality.

How many times have you heard this:

Person 1: "Hey, he's not supposed to be able to do that!"

Person 2: "Yeah, well tell that to HIM because he just did."
 
Confidence is having the ability to not second guess yourself at times.

Missing the shot, and then thinking, I should have been more confident in my first assessment of my ability instead of questioning my ability and changing my mind.

And then trying not to do it again and again, which you surely will do.

I am pretty confident in what I just said, altho I don't really understand what I typed.

But, I think that I know.
 
I think confidence is a personality trait that often beats the odds of reality.

How many times have you heard this:

Person 1: "Hey, he's not supposed to be able to do that!"

Person 2: "Yeah, well tell that to HIM because he just did."

Is it confidence that made the shot? Or skill, or maybe luck?

I think we overstate the importance of confidence in performance. Plenty of people have plenty of confidence - too much confidence. It makes them take low-percentage shots, it stops them from practicing. But I don't see how it helps them to make that tough shot or win that tough match.
 
Self-confidence as far as pool is concerned is a state of mind, essential for success and achievement - it's also related to a positive attitude.

We actually can't control our feelings and emotions, however, we can control our attitude through experience, willingness and confirmation.

Feeling and emotions are like conscious thoughts, they come and go like the wind - although with the right attitude they won't have much effect over us.....without an effective attitude players are a victim of circumstances governed by their own perceptions. 'The Game is our Teacher'
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I sort of see where you are coming from I think. Its like if we think we are sitting somewhere alone and a friend sneaks up and scares the crap out of you... We cant control that fear... is that wh I that you mean?

C.J.,

Do you believe that thoughts control our emotions? For example: someone reads your post about TOI... if they think "he is trying to hustle people" they get mad. If they think "this is going to help me out" they get excited. If they think "its cool that he spends so much time on here helping me get this" they feel greatful. If they think "not again" they feel frustrated. It's not the post that caused the emotion. It was their thoughts. The thoughts that went through there head generated an emotional response.

We can change our thoughts. It is true that we have a lot of thoughts roaming through our head automatically that we dont even recognize but if ee take the time to analyze them and to figure out what thoughts created what emotions we can change them if we see them as illogical and serving no purpose or even holding us back.

When it comes to confidence, its built up through hard work and experience but it can be torn down by thoughts generating a fear of failure etc. You can analyze and change those thoughts thereby controling your emotions. Granted this is not something you want to do during competition but it is neccesary if one is looking to maximize their performance imo.

You're a martial artist. You probrably are aware of how important it is to prepare your mind for battle. Confidence is hugely important. The ability to focus on what you can do to them as opposed to what they can do to you. And that doesnt mean that you dont work your defense and toughen your body to prepare for what they can do to you or that you go into the fight without expecting a battle. its just all about focus and having the right mindset. The same is true for pool or many other aspects of life. Confidence is key and it is something that you can mentally prepare for. You can control that emotion. I'm not saying that it doesnt take work or that you can gain 100% "I got this" confidence evertime. But it can be done. It's about working on your mind.

The game is the teacher!
 
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In Meditation we train ourselves to observe our thoughts, and not react to them

I sort of see where you are coming from I think. Its like if we think we are sitting somewhere alone and a friend sneaks up and scares the crap out of you... We cant control that fear... is that wh I that you mean?

C.J.,

Do you believe that thoughts control our emotions? For example: someone reads your post about TOI... if they think "he is trying to hustle people" they get mad. If they think "this is going to help me out" they get excited. If they think "its cool that he spends so much time on here helping me get this" they feel greatful. If they ghink "not again" they feel frustrated. It's not the post that caused the emotion. It was their thoughts. The thoughts that went through there head generated an emotional response.

We can change our thoughts. It is true that we have a lot of thoughts roaming through our head automatically that we dont even recognize but if ee take the time to analyze them and to figure out what thoughts created what emotions we can change them if we see them as illogical and serving no purpose or even holding us back.

When it comes to confidence its built up through hard work and experience but it can be torn down by thoughts generating a fear of failure etc. You can analyze and change those thoughts thereby controling your emotions. Granted this is not something you eant to do during competition but it is neccesary if one is looking to maximize their performance imo.

You're a martial artist. Im not sure how much sparring you have done or if you have ever competed but you probrably are aware of how important it is to prepare your mind for battle. The same is true for pool or many other aspects of life.

The game is the teacher!

Confidence, from my experience can't be faked, at least not for very long. Fear of failure, or fear of success are equally destructive, as is fear of not getting what we want, or fear of losing what we already have. These are fears that need to be addressed, or they will rear their ugly heads at the most inappropriate times.

It's commonly agreed that the average human has between 30 and 50 thousand thoughts per day. Many of these are below the level of consciousnesses, although they still effect our moods, feelings and/or emotions. The reason I say we can't really control our feelings and emotions is many of the triggers that cause them are not conscious, therefore they seem random, and to deal with them we must identify their root causes.

In Meditation we train ourselves to observe our thoughts, and not react to them at all. The takes practice, and that's what mediation really is.....practice. Only about 2-3% of our thoughts do we act on, the rest just loop aimlessly causing many people unnecessary worry, shame, guilt, and other destructive feelings/emotions.

There is no easy answer to "fix" these issues, if I knew how I'd be a billionaire. Usually it requires a balance of the physical, mental, and spiritual to create harmony in a person's life. This is a triangular dynamic, and even if one of these are weak it will make the entire structure of someone's life shaky, and subject to fall.

My mentor, Dalton Leong once told me that preparation was the most important aspect of competition "readiness is everything" he would say. He encouraged me to follow the way of the samurai and accept death before each battle.

To do this I'd imagine losing to the person I was getting ready to play and make sure I could accept it, then, when in the heat of battle the thought of losing wouldn't enter my mind because I'd already dealt with it......this may sound negative to some, however, I believe you'll understand the importance of alleviating that particular fear before it has a chance to occur.
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Good post CJ. Thanks.


I totally agree on the importance of preperation. Keep your eye focused on the prize. Be motivated toward the pleasure not away from the pain and the preperation is easier.

To get through hell when it matters you have to have gone through hell when it doesn't and remember if you stop in the middle of hell then you're stuck in hell so keep going! (Losing is one thing but quiting js something else. No one wants to lose because they quit.)


I also see where you are coming from when dealing with emotions.
 
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I totally agree on the importance of preperation. Keep your eye focused on the prize. Be motivated toward the pleasure not away from the pain and the preperation is easier.

To get through hell when it matters you have to have gone through hell when it doesn't and remember if you stop in the middle of hell then you're stuck in hell so keep going!


I also see where you are coming from when dealing with emotions.

And some people choose to stay in "hell" because they can recognize the road signs, and there's a McDonald's on every corner. ;)
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And some people choose to stay in "hell" because they can recognize the road signs, and there's a McDonald's on every corner. ;)
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Ha ha, seriously.

I like the pain pleasure idea too. I know the real motivation theory is a concept in nlp and not used this way but this is how I like to think of it.

Success isnt easy. Everyone wants it but so many give up before they get there. In life , on the road to success, you wont deal with the same pain as if preparing for a fight but still you are going to have times when you feel the "pain" and want to quit. Thats why I like the saying "be driven toward success and not away from the pain" because even in life the road to success is full of "pain". Embrace the pain, feel it and keep going. Stay focused on the prize.

Kind of like that "dont cry to give up... cry to keep going. Dont cry to quit.. you're already in pain get a reeard from it." motivational speech.
 
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Confidence is the abundance of - and the result of self-trust and self belief.

You cannot be confident if you do not trust that what you are doing will get the job done.

You cannot be confident if you do not believe that you have the ability to get the job done.

People that are confident (with or about anything) don't question it or even think about "what if" ... they simply "perform" and simply "do". Confidence allows them to "flow" through the process.

A person with a lack of confidence will hit a lot of "mental speed bumps" before during and after the process.


JMO.

Amen Bro!

have a smooth stroke
lg

Ingo
 
The absence of doubt due to prior experience.

I like the absence of doubt part, but i think it could be based on anything, not just experience. Experience is probably the very best foundation, for sure, but if a rabbit's foot makes you confident then so be it.

You could play confident and still play like shit. :grin:

Hmm... which made me think... one could play confident due to ignorance too! After all we know ignorance is bliss. Through the years of playing. I've known lots of great players incapable of even holding a thought.
 
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