What is the Best approach for a Cue Maker when marketing his cues

[manwon]

I can speak my mind just fine...I just choose not to join in your trash threads. Calling someone "butthurt"....you're real a real class act Manwus.
If I spoke my mind concerning you...I'd be banned it about 30 seconds...and of course I've promised the mods not to join in your attemp to pull me into your Jerry Springer antics. Funny thing is....your so called plan to "run me off AZ" as you have so often admitted...and yes I can provide quotes....has done nothing but fill my pm box with support from customers wondering why you act like an upset school girl....as they also state they'd NEVER do any business with you....even if you were to ever to learn how to make a cue. Seems my cues sell just fine & are in quite a demand....lets search the sale section for Varney vs Craig Rittel cues.
I've made my point very clear....not that I even had to for the AZ'ers who know you & grow weary of your BS. My last post on this subject & back to my "ignore" list you go....along with the rest of your little group.

Man Kevin I am truly surprised that you are finally acting like a Man. Kevin throughout all of this I have never, said you could not make a cue, I have only said that you have exaggerated about the quality of your work. I have seen a few of your cues, and like I said in my review of one, they are OK, but in no way world class or even close. Kevin I do not have to sell cues to people on an Internet forum, I would rather do my business face to face. Oh and by the way, I do not have to give things away to make myself look like a good guy, so there is no competition from me there either. Unlike you Kevin, I will be a student for life, I will never be the choice of World Champions, and if I were, I would not blow my Horn To AZ Billiards about it. The only pride I get out of anything I do is the private pride one gets when they do the right things. I know you do not understand this, because you do nothing for others just for the satisfaction of doing it. It is easy to impress people with a limited knowledge of cue building, but try and stand-up equally with others who build cues for living, you would be laughed out of the room, as soon as they see the gap at the joint of your cues.

Your methods and your tactics are as fraudulent as any I have seen on this forum, and yet you are allowed to continue making your little smoke screen. Kevin remember, Karma is an angry women, and your world is surely shrinking, day by day. You fool some people, however, for everyone you fool, you alienate 10 more. Kevin, unlike you sir, my reputation is not something I need to flaunt so that I feel good about myself, I am happy to just be a part of this forum, not the center of attention.

Thanks for your post, I am glad you have spoken your mind, and put the Puppets to bed.

Oh and by the way, you stated the following: (along with the rest of your little group) My so called little group does not speak for me and I certainly do not speak for them. My words are mine alone, so please do not blame others for my words, I do not need the support, I have been standing on my own two feet all my life. Kevin you may want to try that sometime, it is a feeling compared to no other.

Have a wounderful night Kevin!!

 

[Guerra Cues]

I"ll vote first. I do let my customers tell me how to run my business. Its
called a customer survey, a lot of fortune 500 companies do it. I am suprised you or somebody you know has never heard of it . It involves asking the customer how they can better serve them. I want to know what kind of job my company is doing and how to improve upon. I am most grateful to have customers and would go to great lengths to keep
them satisfied!

This is a good one. I've worked in some fortune 500 companies and most of them is by customer demand. The marketing department does their studies and tells development what people want and then with the best of both worlds the final product comes out. It is always good to listen to the customer as well the company needs to take the lead on a leading edge product. This is a long story and we could be here for hours and days debating the subject. But you got the picture. We need both... What the customer wants and what the manufacturer wants as well...

 

[Guerra Cues]

Man Kevin I am truly surprised that you are finally acting like a Man. Kevin throughout all of this I have never, said you could not make a cue, I have only said that you have exaggerated about the quality of your work. I have seen a few of your cues, and like I said in my review of one, they are OK, but in no way world class or even close. Kevin I do not have to sell cues to people on an Internet forum, I would rather do my business face to face. Oh and by the way, I do not have to give things away to make myself look like a good guy, so there is no competition from me there either. Unlike you Kevin, I will be a student for life, I will never be the choice of World Champions, and if I were, I would not blow my Horn To AZ Billiards about it. The only pride I get out of anything I do is the private pride one gets when they do the right things. I know you do not understand this, because you do nothing for others just for the satisfaction of doing it. It is easy to impress people with a limited knowledge of cue building, but try and stand-up equally with others who build cues for living, you would be laughed out of the room, as soon as they see the gap at the joint of your cues.

Your methods and your tactics are as fraudulent as any I have seen on this forum, and yet you are allowed to continue making your little smoke screen. Kevin remember, Karma is an angry women, and your world is surely shrinking, day by day. You fool some people, however, for everyone you fool, you alienate 10 more. Kevin, unlike you sir, my reputation is not something I need to flaunt so that I feel good about myself, I am happy to just be a part of this forum, not the center of attention.

Thanks for your post, I am glad you have spoken your mind, and put the Puppets to bed.

Oh and by the way, you stated the following: (along with the rest of your little group) My so called little group does not speak for me and I certainly do not speak for them. My words are mine alone, so please do not blame others for my words, I do not need the support, I have been standing on my own two feet all my life. Kevin you may want to try that sometime, it is a feeling compared to no other.

Have a wounderful night Kevin!!

Craig,
Kevin is not my buddy, neither I've ever met him. I have only a SP from him that I use on my trips when I fly around the country.
You have a problem with this guy... Leave him alone!!! Are you jealous because you can not make a cue? Brianna sells some DVD's that you could learn from.
Your posts are starting to be nasty and offending people. The words you have used to adjectivise Kevin's work are not nice.
I am not defending neither, all I am saying is to put your dog of your avatar where it belongs and mind your own business, if you know how to run one.
You have a fixation problem with Kevin, leave the guy alone!
Everybody that I talked to always sees you as the trigger for the nasty threads about KV. The guy is starting to comeback and delivering cues, so, leave him alone. I also had a couple of cues that had gaps on the joint and the cuemakers always took care of me and I am referring to some cues over 1K.
Craig, do not get me wrong with this post but enough is enough, you need to grow up and get over it...

 

[manwon]

Craig,
Kevin is not my buddy, neither I've ever met him. I have only a SP from him that I use on my trips when I fly around the country.
You have a problem with this guy... Leave him alone!!! Are you jealous because you can not make a cue? Brianna sells some DVD's that you could learn from.
Your posts are starting to be nasty and offending people. The words you have used to adjectivise Kevin's work are not nice.
I am not defending neither, all I am saying is to put your dog of your avatar where it belongs and mind your own business, if you know how to run one.
You have a fixation problem with Kevin, leave the guy alone!
Everybody that I talked to always sees you as the trigger for the nasty threads about KV. The guy is starting to comeback and delivering cues, so, leave him alone. I also had a couple of cues that had gaps on the joint and the cuemakers always took care of me and I am referring to some cues over 1K.
Craig, do not get me wrong with this post but enough is enough, you need to grow up and get over it...

Kevin is not my buddy, neither I've ever met him. I have only a SP from him that I use on my trips when I fly around the country.
You have a problem with this guy... Leave him alone!!! Are you jealous because you can not make a cue? Brianna sells some DVD's that you could learn from.

Thanks very much for the advise, but who are you to give it. I am certainly not in competition with Kevin, and I am in no way Jealous of skills. I have never claimed to be a cue maker, and I never will, I will always be nothing more than a student.

This thread was not about Kevin in general, he was not even mentioned until his supporters including you have tried to Hijack this thread.

Your posts are starting to be nasty and offending people. The words you have used to adjectivise Kevin's work are not nice.
I am not defending neither, all I am saying is to put your dog of your avatar where it belongs and mind your own business, if you know how to run one.

You are funny partner, how can you make this post and say the above.

You have a fixation problem with Kevin, leave the guy alone!
Everybody that I talked to always sees you as the trigger for the nasty threads about KV. The guy is starting to comeback and delivering cues, so, leave him alone. I also had a couple of cues that had gaps on the joint and the cuemakers always took care of me and I am referring to some cues over 1K.

Thanks for your experience with cues and cue building techniques, I am always willing to learn, hell I am a student.
However, the Gap we are talking about was not a mistake, it is how he builds his cues, picture below.



Craig, do not get me wrong with this post but enough is enough, you need to grow up and get over it..

If you comments throughout this thread were designed to be constructive I would take them into consideration, and very seriously. However, like you said above, I will certainly not get you wrong, in fact I know exactly where your coming from.

Oh and by the way, I know Kevin sent you a PM last night and asked you to do this, you should truly be embarrassed for allowing him to use you in this manner. Enjoy your new Cue and whatever others gifts you may receive.

Have a great day, and please say hello to Kevin!!!!!!!!LOL

 

[Guerra Cues]

Kevin is not my buddy, neither I've ever met him. I have only a SP from him that I use on my trips when I fly around the country.
You have a problem with this guy... Leave him alone!!! Are you jealous because you can not make a cue? Brianna sells some DVD's that you could learn from.

Thanks very much for the advise, but who are you to give it. I am certainly not in competition with Kevin, and I am in no way Jealous of skills. I have never claimed to be a cue maker, and I never will, I will always be nothing more than a student.

This thread was not about Kevin in general, he was not even mentioned until his supporters including you have tried to Hijack this thread.

Your posts are starting to be nasty and offending people. The words you have used to adjectivise Kevin's work are not nice.
I am not defending neither, all I am saying is to put your dog of your avatar where it belongs and mind your own business, if you know how to run one.

You are funny partner, how can you make this post and say the above.

You have a fixation problem with Kevin, leave the guy alone!
Everybody that I talked to always sees you as the trigger for the nasty threads about KV. The guy is starting to comeback and delivering cues, so, leave him alone. I also had a couple of cues that had gaps on the joint and the cuemakers always took care of me and I am referring to some cues over 1K.

Thanks for your experience with cues and cue building techniques, I am always willing to learn, hell I am a student.
However, the Gap we are talking about was not a mistake, it is how he builds his cues, picture below.

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Craig, do not get me wrong with this post but enough is enough, you need to grow up and get over it..

If you comments throughout this thread were designed to be constructive I would take them into consideration, and very seriously. However, like you said above, I will certainly not get you wrong, in fact I know exactly where your coming from.

Have a great day, and please say hello to Kevin!!!!!!!!LOL

With all you silliness you might even get into legal issues. What you are doing can be considered harassment/stalking. So let's stop right here because you are not worth my time. I thought that you were intelligent enough to interpret my comments, but as expected you are not.
So why don't you go fishing, press some clothes, or do something that that keeps you away from a computer and specially from the AZ Forum.
I am surprised that you did not get warned by the mods or even banned yet, you are going way to far and my patience is way smaller than Kevin's. Consider this my first and last warning, sleep tight. I am done with you.

 

[ribdoner]

With all you silliness you might even get into legal issues. What you are doing can be considered harassment/stalking. So let's stop right here because you are not worth my time. I thought that you were intelligent enough to interpret my comments, but as expected you are not.
So why don't you go fishing, press some clothes, or do something that that keeps you away from a computer and specially from the AZ Forum.
I am surprised that you did not get warned by the mods or even banned yet, you are going way to far and my patience is way smaller than Kevin's. Consider this my first and last warning, sleep tight. I am done with you.

Nice crib in your avatar

 

[Guerra Cues]

Nice crib in your avatar

Thanks! It is one of the most spectacular places on earth.

 

[manwon]

With all you silliness you might even get into legal issues. What you are doing can be considered harassment/stalking. So let's stop right here because you are not worth my time. I thought that you were intelligent enough to interpret my comments, but as expected you are not.
So why don't you go fishing, press some clothes, or do something that that keeps you away from a computer and specially from the AZ Forum.
I am surprised that you did not get warned by the mods or even banned yet, you are going way to far and my patience is way smaller than Kevin's. Consider this my first and last warning, sleep tight. I am done with you.

What exactly did you and Kevin talk about last night before you made the other post last night. Why are you trying to Hijack this thread

Who brought Kevin into this thread, except Irish, Joey, Kevin himself, and now you. Who is stalking who I never mentioned Kevins name until the Pupet Master and His Pupets started trying to derail this thread.

Consider this my first and last warning, sleep tight. I am done with you.[/QUOTE]

Are you making a threat, because if that was your intent, it is weak. The best thing you could do is be done with me. But if you are not I am certainly easy to find.

Oh and by the way, you sleep tight and when you discuss this with Kevin, tell him to stop playing the victim.

Have a wounderful day!!!!!

 

[Guerra Cues]

What exactly did you and Kevin talk about last night before you made the other post last night. Why are you trying to Hijack this thread

Who brought Kevin into this thread, except Irish, Joey, Kevin himself, and now you. Who is stalking who I never mentioned Kevins name until the Pupet Master and His Pupets started trying to derail this thread.

Consider this my first and last warning, sleep tight. I am done with you.[/QUOTE]

Are you making a threat, because if that was your intent, it is weak. The best thing you could do is be done with me. But if you are not I am certainly easy to find.

Oh and by the way, you sleep tight and when you discuss this with Kevin, tell him to stop playing the victim.

Have a wounderful day!!!!!

It is not only KV. You do not respect people, period!
I am unable to see a positive post from you, you always find a way to attack people.
What you should do is to loose a bit more time on updating your own website that looks really crappy and or start your positiveness and respect to your fellow AZ'ers - regardless of the threads and if they are cuemakers or not.

 

[The King]

Wow ....

Can't we all just get along and live in peace and harmony ???
Come on AZ'ers Group Hug.....

 

[Guerra Cues]

Can't we all just get along and live in peace and harmony ???
Come on AZ'ers Group Hug.....

Could not agree more. Good rep 2u

 

[manwon]

It is not only KV. You do not respect people, period!
I am unable to see a positive post from you, you always find a way to attack people.
What you should do is to loose a bit more time on updating your own website that looks really crappy and or start your positiveness and respect to your fellow AZ'ers - regardless of the threads and if they are cuemakers or not.

Thanks for taking the time to say something constructive, I will give it some thought.

It is not only KV. You do not respect people, period!
I am unable to see a positive post from you, you always find a way to attack people.

Tony, this only shows you know nothing about me, and have never done any research on the subject. At least you made no threats this time!!

You are certainly right my Website is pretty poor currently I will have to work on that when time is available.

But as far having respect for AZ Billiards and my fellow members you are way off base. I have the up most respect for this forum, and its membership!!!!

But please be honest and tell everyone the truth, that yes you and Kevin spoke through PM before the first negative post you made last night. You appear to be a businessman, if you have any integrity at least admit the truth.

Have a wonderful day Tony, and let Kevin handle things himself. He brought this upon himself by posting in this thread without adding anything to it other than drama.

 

[masonh]

This thread was not about Kevin in general, he was not even mentioned until his supporters including you have tried to Hijack this thread

i am trying to stay out of this,but i have to agree.Kevin was never mentioned in this thread until he was mentioned by his own clique.

 

[manwon]

i am trying to stay out of this,but i have to agree.Kevin was never mentioned in this thread until he was mentioned by his own clique.

Thanks Mason, I think you scared them all off!!!!!!!!!

Have a good night