what is the stiffest carbon shaft in market at the moment?

forgot to mention its a Cynergy 12.5....thinking a switch to Cynergy 11.8 might work but worried about being a 12.5 mm guy my while life and adjusting to the smaller tip
 
I also found the Cynergy 12.5 to be whippy (although I like that about it). Some other carbon shafts I've used are the Predator Revo, Meucci Carbon Pro, and Pechauer Rogue, all of which are quite stiff in comparison.
 
They're all pretty darn stiff. I own a Rhino 12.8 and have hit a bunch of others. All were stiff imo. I wouldn't use the term 'whippy' to describe the Cuetec by any means.
 
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The CF shafts are going to bring a lot to the shaft game. Since all I know of are hollow the thickness of the sidewall of the shaft comes into play. If you have your own wrapping equipment or can cut a deal with the manufacturer there could be all kinds of tapers or profiles on the inside of the hollow shaft too. Possibilities are almost limitless.

I have an 11.8mm Cynergy shaft, don't care for it. Low hours on it, less than forty, maybe only twenty or twenty-five. I did buy it new.

If OP or someone else wants to swap it can be had in original packaging. I would sell it too. Just not my cup of tea. I bought it after hitting with a friend's revo a little, not the same beast. Main complaint is too fast of a taper for me, I want a skinny shaft at my bridge, about sixteen inches back.

Hu
 
The CF shafts are going to bring a lot to the shaft game. Since all I know of are hollow the thickness of the sidewall of the shaft comes into play. If you have your own wrapping equipment or can cut a deal with the manufacturer there could be all kinds of tapers or profiles on the inside of the hollow shaft too. Possibilities are almost limitless.

I have an 11.8mm Cynergy shaft, don't care for it. Low hours on it, less than forty, maybe only twenty or twenty-five. I did buy it new.

If OP or someone else wants to swap it can be had in original packaging. I would sell it too. Just not my cup of tea. I bought it after hitting with a friend's revo a little, not the same beast. Main complaint is too fast of a taper for me, I want a skinny shaft at my bridge, about sixteen inches back.

Hu
The Becue engage 12.3 has an 18” taper, which is the longest I’ve seen. The 11.8 is 14” taper which is still solid compared to the other sub 12mm carbon shafts on the market.
 
The Becue engage 12.3 has an 18” taper, which is the longest I’ve seen. The 11.8 is 14” taper which is still solid compared to the other sub 12mm carbon shafts on the market.

Thank You! I might be happier with the 12.3 and a few tenths more of taper in my bridge than the 11.8 that might be fatter in my bridge than the 12.3. I shot a little with a Revo 11.8 that was probably a prototype. I don't know if the production Revo is the same or not. Aside from anything else that long skinny taper on the Revo I shot with made it a beast on a snooker table.

Hu
 
Not challenging OP or others, but, I need a definition of "whippy".
I know I suck, but I've shot a few years each with 90's Meucci, 90'sMcDermott, Scruggs ivory ferrule custom, then the predator family of 314's, Z's, and now Revos. Honest to god, the only difference I ever felt was the sound, the CB deflection, and the thickness. I never felt a flexibility difference.
 
Not challenging OP or others, but, I need a definition of "whippy".

Well, if you look up "whippy" in the dictionary there is a picture of my early eighties moochie shaft. A sixty four inch or so shaft I got from Shmelke was a close second. Third place would be a buggy whip that you use with horses.

I want a shaft with some flex and whip to it. My personal cue with my favored shaft taper ferrule and tip plays what I define as medium. Most people think it is too soft, nobody has mentioned it playing firm.

Unfortunately we don't have any scales or calibration although it wouldn't be hard to do. If we hung a weight from the tip of a cue with it horizontal and secured at the joint end it would be possible to measure deflection through a full circle. That would give a pretty good idea of how whippy a shaft was. Closer than anything I know of being done now. Somebody would have to take an interest though.

Define whippy? Stiff? Medium? Medium is especially hard to define. It is just off pingy to some, just off noodle to others!

Hu
 
The opposite of stiff.. lol play with a meucci. That’s whippy af

The rumor back in the early eighties when I got mine was that Bob used soft maple for his shafts. It took me six months to get used to mine. People used to laugh when I would sling my hinged cue in a corner and grab something, anything, off the wall to play with!

Hu
 
Well, if you look up "whippy" in the dictionary there is a picture of my early eighties moochie shaft. A sixty four inch or so shaft I got from Shmelke was a close second. Third place would be a buggy whip that you use with horses.

I want a shaft with some flex and whip to it. My personal cue with my favored shaft taper ferrule and tip plays what I define as medium. Most people think it is too soft, nobody has mentioned it playing firm.

Unfortunately we don't have any scales or calibration although it wouldn't be hard to do. If we hung a weight from the tip of a cue with it horizontal and secured at the joint end it would be possible to measure deflection through a full circle. That would give a pretty good idea of how whippy a shaft was. Closer than anything I know of being done now. Somebody would have to take an interest though.

Define whippy? Stiff? Medium? Medium is especially hard to define. It is just off pingy to some, just off noodle to others!

Hu
We need a good, accurate 'Boing-ometer', you bend the shaft and let go. How many times it goes 'BOINGGGG" is the flex rating. ;)
 
One unique aspect of cf shafts is depending on the layup, fibers used, etc you could conceivably make a 6mm long-taper shaft that was stiff as hell. Can't do that with natural materials like wood, the smaller you go the less backbone you're gonna have. That's why small wood shafts have conical tapers otherwise they'd be noodle-like.
 
I've had a feeling most of these shafts are all made in the same place.
Tubes come from various suppliers then get finished by other co's. Some co's make the whole thing like Becue, Revo, viking/Whyte and Cuetec. So no they aren't all made in same place.
 
becue is the softest hit of cf shaft

rhino is pretty darn stiff and for the price its what i would buy if im getting another cf shaft
 
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