What is wrong about a softer tip?
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Dick...The difference between tip hardnesses, and contact time with the tip, is measured in one or two 1/1000th's of a second...not enough time differential to have any appreciable physical, or tactile difference in the end result. I'm sure Bob will chime in at some point. That's not to say that some folks will still maintain that THEY can tell a difference.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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rhncue said:
expressed as a percentage
Scott,
I have often seen these claims about a hard tip and a soft tip. I have also seen high speed images of a tennis ball in collision with the ground and pool balls in collision with each other. No question that the softer tennis ball maintains contact with what it hits far longer.
So the question is, what is the difference in time a hard tip and a soft tip stays on a cue ball when maximum side is applied when expressed as a percentage? Say two tips of side for this discussion or any offset that actual numbers are available for.
Hu
Scott Lee said:
Scott,
I have often seen these claims about a hard tip and a soft tip. I have also seen high speed images of a tennis ball in collision with the ground and pool balls in collision with each other. No question that the softer tennis ball maintains contact with what it hits far longer.
So the question is, what is the difference in time a hard tip and a soft tip stays on a cue ball when maximum side is applied when expressed as a percentage? Say two tips of side for this discussion or any offset that actual numbers are available for.
Hu
I think the Jax Tapes did show an increase in contact time with more sidespin, at least up to a point. The ball continues to rotate while the tip is in contact with it, and it might start sliding (miscueing) sooner if contact starts close to the miscue limit, so contact time might be maximized with a starting offset of less than maximum.
I think it also makes sense that a softer tip will stay in contact longer, and I think this is generally considered to be true by knowledgable people.
As Scott said, the Jax Tapes showed a range of 1 ms to 2 ms, a 100% increase, but I don't know if it was determined how much of the extended contact was due to softer tips vs. amount of offset.
pj
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JoeyA said:
Not really bad aim, Joey, just not pinpoint.
pj
chgo
I've played with Mori's, Tailsman Mediums, Triangle, Le Pro, and Triumph.
I can't say that one is much better than the other. For the cost you can put on 10 of the single layer tips for one of the laminated tips. They may not last as long but they are easy to burnish and trim off any mushrooming that may ocurr. The best tip for the price in my book is either aTriumph or a Triangle.
The Triumph is a Medium tip while the Triangle is in the Medium Hard range. Both play well for me. I don't mind changing them when they wear down, I've been retipping my own cues and others for the better part of 20 years now.
If you think spending $12 on a tip or up to $30 for a tip including installiation, makes you play better good for you and great for the tip makers.
Mosconi ran 526 what kind of tip did he use?
Just my opinion,
Rufus
I can't say that one is much better than the other. For the cost you can put on 10 of the single layer tips for one of the laminated tips. They may not last as long but they are easy to burnish and trim off any mushrooming that may ocurr. The best tip for the price in my book is either aTriumph or a Triangle.
The Triumph is a Medium tip while the Triangle is in the Medium Hard range. Both play well for me. I don't mind changing them when they wear down, I've been retipping my own cues and others for the better part of 20 years now.
If you think spending $12 on a tip or up to $30 for a tip including installiation, makes you play better good for you and great for the tip makers.
Mosconi ran 526 what kind of tip did he use?
Just my opinion,
Rufus
IMO, as with most things in life there are usually extremes on both ends of the spectrum in terms of usability / functionality. I prefer a middle of the road tip hardness.
There is another philosophy and logic you could apply however. It is .....
If it's true that a harder tip is better, then a tip thats too hard must be Juuusst right!
There is another philosophy and logic you could apply however. It is .....
If it's true that a harder tip is better, then a tip thats too hard must be Juuusst right!