what is wrong with knowing the contact point and hitting it with the cb

barking

barking

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i just dont get all the confusion and need for overcomplication of something which is so simple. wassup?
 
isnt this the original aiming system? shouldnt ones efforts be focused on mastering this simple aiming system ?
 
or doesnt this qualify as a system? is it too simple to be a system? i want it to be considered a system so i can claim that i too, use an aiming system. please allow this to be considered a system. people refer to it as "feel" but that would imply guesswork and a lack of precision. not so. it is considered to be what people who cant master systems use to aim with when perhaps it is the other way around. it is the "hit the contact point with the cue ball" system or the htcpwtcb system. ok??
 
use whatever u find helps you make shots, i could care less just dont take away my system. i want to seem incomprehensible too ok?
 
You are on the right track.
I mis read your post.
You said hit not aim at th contact point.
Disregard:
When you are presented with a thin 90 degree cut, do you aim at the edge of OB with the center of the CB?
 
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barking said:
or doesnt this qualify as a system? is it too simple to be a system? i want it to be considered a system so i can claim that i too, use an aiming system. please allow this to be considered a system. people refer to it as "feel" but that would imply guesswork and a lack of precision. not so. it is considered to be what people who cant master systems use to aim with when perhaps it is the other way around. it is the "hit the contact point with the cue ball" system or the htcpwtcb system. ok??
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Yep it's a system. The fact that you have a procedure at all qualifies it. You can dig into the details if you want, or just keep hammering at it until it works satisfactorily for you.

It's kind of like shooting a rifle. You can use the sites to get to the target rather quickly, or just aim from the hip. The hip may be a bit tougher but after a ton of practice, you'll get pretty darn good at it.
 
Nothing, if that works for you so be it. In fact I don't think there is anything wrong with any of the systems. Just different strokes for different folks. I can see benefits from studying all the systems. I always seem to learn something new about my stroke when looking into these systems and incorporate it into my game.
 
Neil said:
Also, if aiming is SO simple, why do you duck when there is a pocket available to make the ball in? Could it possibly be because aiming that particular shot is too hard for you to attempt and get a high percentage of making it?? Aiming isn't near as simple as many like to make it out to be.
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It's the execution which must be precise as you have a very small margin for error. I can point at anything very effectively. Rolling a cue ball at it with possibly a small amount of side spin accurately is quite another thing.

Disclaimer: I agree aiming at an edge is easier than aiming at an imaginary point
 
barking said:
i just dont get all the confusion and need for overcomplication of something which is so simple. wassup?
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In my case, I do not see the correct contact point. What I see is wrong.
I prove this by lining up 2 balls with the pocket. If I do it from the side, I pick the wrong spot. I need to be able to know with confidence that I am aiming properly when I move to the side (if that is where I'm shooting from).
I don't know if this is caused by my astigmatism or it's just an illusion.
In any event, before I pull the trigger I need to have confidence to know that my eyes are not lying, or if they are, another double check to know I will make the shot.
where I have the most trouble is what I call a back cut. I'm WAY off sometimes. This is when the cue ball is closer to the rail than the object ball. I tend to overcut these shots badly. My eyes lie to me.
 
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There is no worse feeling than making what you see and feel was a perfect stroke that hits the object ball exactly where you intended, only to see it miss the pocket by a foot.:(
 
Shaky1 said:
In my case, I do not see the correct contact point. What I see is wrong.
I prove this by lining up 2 balls with the pocket. If I do it from the side, I pick the wrong spot. I need to be able to know with confidence that I am aiming properly when I move to the side (if that is where I'm shooting from).
I don't know if this is caused by my astigmatism or it's just an illusion.
In any event, before I pull the trigger I need to have confidence to know that my eyes are not lying, or if they are, another double check to know I will make the shot.
where I have the most trouble is what I call a back cut. I'm WAY off sometimes. This is when the cue ball is closer to the rail than the object ball. I tend to overcut these shots badly. My eyes lie to me.
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Use your stick to aim.
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neil
i didnt say anything was wrong with any system??
perhaps i would pass on a shot cuz it lets the cb loose or has no next shot.who knows? very few shots im afraid of but some are not the best way to go for any number of reasons. makin shots is one thing, playin good billiards encompasses much more.
 
Nothing is wrong with hitting the contact point. Where is the contact point though? What happens if you don't hit the contact point?

I mean if you can see and hold a point on a sphere consistently then great. Some people can't.

For some people it's easier to use some other method than looking for a contact point.
 
i guess its easiest for me to just hit the correct part of the object ball with the equal but opposite spot on the cue ball.doesnt confuse me at all or trick my eyes at all.
 
barking said:
i guess its easiest for me to just hit the correct part of the object ball with the equal but opposite spot on the cue ball.doesnt confuse me at all or trick my eyes at all.
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Great. If it works for you and you are happy then stay happy.
 
What you don't see is the fact that even with this system, the angles shown in the diagram don't look right from the get go.
Everything else will be off.
 
JB Cases said:
Nothing is wrong with hitting the contact point. Where is the contact point though? What happens if you don't hit the contact point?

I mean if you can see and hold a point on a sphere consistently then great. Some people can't.

For some people it's easier to use some other method than looking for a contact point.
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YES !!!! You are correct. For me it's , where is the real contact point!!!!
 
shakey

draw a line from the center of the pocket through the center of the object ball. the point where the line exits the side of the object ball furthest from the pocket is the contact point. perhaps you should look at ghost ball and try to get that in your head. i hope this helps.
 
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