What kind of joint do you prefer?

DaveK said:
Has anybody ever quantified the difference in "hit" (whatever that is) between cues with different joints ? I'd love to see the references.

Dave
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I wonder if a simple (yeah, right) resonance or frequency meter would suffice to quantify a joint.

But, not difference in different joints.

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What happens is that some players will try a cue here, and cue there, and assume that all cues with the same looking joint will feel the same. And this isn't true.

The feel of the cue is mostly due to the cuemaker's execution. In a blind taste test, anyone would be hard pressed to know with any certainy whether a Tim Scruggs cue was a stainless steel, an ivory, or a phenolic joint. I have a flat-faced cue that with a blind taste test, I'm sure most people would swear it's steel.

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Fred
 
I like the Implex joint 3/8x10 metal pin into wood with phenolic collars.

Its the same joint used by Gilbert on most his cues.
 
Varney Cues said:
Some players prefer the type joints that everyone shares in the parking lot.:cool: :D :D
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lol when i first looked at the thread i was like ....hmm is this pool related then i was reading it and said to my self "someone is gonna say somthing about weed" and sure enough i was right ...i prefer bongs though not joints...but if it had to be wrapped i would prefer Blunts...


thats just me
 
Jeff said:
Wood to wood with a big pin here too.

I am waiting for a cue with a big wood pin instead of metal. Can't wait to try it.
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This is a serious question .. is there wood to wood joint WITHOUT a big pin (3/8)??

Me, I like 3/8 x 10 or 11 thread with ivory or buckhorn joint.
 
All I want

All I want is a big pin soft hit and a very stiff shaft I've played with only one S/W but I've been looking for that hit ever since.Came close with the Durbin had a Josey that played ok both had a little looser feel.The Durbin played better.::D
 
DaveK said:
Has anybody ever quantified the difference in "hit" (whatever that is) between cues with different joints ? I'd love to see the references.

Dave
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I don't think you can quantify the hit. I've had cues that are identical in all respects but the desity of each specific wood causes variation. I'm not sure if it would be "close enough" to determine the "hit".
 
dodgecharger said:
lol when i first looked at the thread i was like ....hmm is this pool related then i was reading it and said to my self "someone is gonna say somthing about weed" and sure enough i was right ...i prefer bongs though not joints...but if it had to be wrapped i would prefer Blunts...


thats just me
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Sometime you should go with me. I have a Rasta Friend that lives in a lean to type of thing and he has made a very nice bong out of a coconut. He certainly don't smoke no dirt bud either. By the way a blunt is a spliff and a spliff is a fatty!:D That's what my kids tell me anyway!;)
Purdman:cool:
 
ratcues said:
I don't think you can quantify the hit. I've had cues that are identical in all respects but the desity of each specific wood causes variation. I'm not sure if it would be "close enough" to determine the "hit".
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If you can't quantify something, how can there be any difference between two somethings ? If there is a difference, then it must be measureable. When you say "the desity of each specific wood causes variation", what varys ? As Fred suggested, a test for the natural resonance of a stick might be an indicator, and there might be value in measuring it on several different planes/axis's (?). I think it's possible. I also think that nobody has done much work in this area and as a result we are left discussing subjective qualities that have no accepted, common definition.

Once this base work has been done, then it will be possible to determin the differences between pins.

Dave
 
1/2 by 8 wood pin in butt into wood threads in shaft. flat joint with linen phonelic rings is what i use in my cues. chuck
 
Jazz said:
This is a serious question .. is there wood to wood joint WITHOUT a big pin (3/8)??

Me, I like 3/8 x 10 or 11 thread with ivory or buckhorn joint.
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Huebler's have a flat faced 5/16x18 pin. Their hustler cues are true wood to wood, although they all have a linen insert into the shaft so always backthread until it falls into place as they are easy to crossthread.
 
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DaveK said:
If you can't quantify something, how can there be any difference between two somethings ? If there is a difference, then it must be measureable. When you say "the desity of each specific wood causes variation", what varys ? As Fred suggested, a test for the natural resonance of a stick might be an indicator, and there might be value in measuring it on several different planes/axis's (?). I think it's possible. I also think that nobody has done much work in this area and as a result we are left discussing subjective qualities that have no accepted, common definition.

Once this base work has been done, then it will be possible to determin the differences between pins.

Dave
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What I am saying is that each cue's hit can be measured but not compared to another cue even if it is built the same. Take a 2 pieces of cocobolo for example. At the same specs, one may weigh a bit more than the other, thus changing the resonance.

Doesn't it come down to what feels best to the player? Are players getting too caught up in all of the options? ie; joint, balance point, weight, etc... Pick up the cue and hit a ball. If it feels good, play with it. No pun intended.
 
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