What level am i at?
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if you beat the 13 ball ghost in a rotation game
you are ready to play almost anybody
....:smile:
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Thanks for the replies!
Yeah being serious, i have played a lot in the past and had some good results but been away from the scene for over a year. I often come up short but last night played strong to win, lose more often than win if im honest.
I think if i play the game I can play vs the ghost in tournaments I would be able to compete with most but wanted opinions. The trouble i have sometimes is taking that game to the pressure situations!
Yeah being serious, i have played a lot in the past and had some good results but been away from the scene for over a year. I often come up short but last night played strong to win, lose more often than win if im honest.
I think if i play the game I can play vs the ghost in tournaments I would be able to compete with most but wanted opinions. The trouble i have sometimes is taking that game to the pressure situations!
I don't think there are many people in the world who can beat the 13 ball ghost in a race to nine regularly. In fact, I'd guess the number is very close to zero. Of course playing against an opponent is different, but still, I wonder why you are questioning yourself instead of going to play, well, anybody, if what you stated is true. ''Even'' with ball in hand after break.
Obviously, instead of listening to me (I am completely new here as well) you should wait for the answers from the forum specialists who are known to run 10 consequent racks of 20ball regularly.
Obviously, instead of listening to me (I am completely new here as well) you should wait for the answers from the forum specialists who are known to run 10 consequent racks of 20ball regularly.
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Appreciate your reply Rasputin.
I definitley wouldnt say I won reguraly but it is true i won last night and have won in the past.
As i said i do struggle to sometimes take that level to meaningful match's!
GOod to hear if I can get over that obstacle that I could compete well!
I definitley wouldnt say I won reguraly but it is true i won last night and have won in the past.
As i said i do struggle to sometimes take that level to meaningful match's!
GOod to hear if I can get over that obstacle that I could compete well!
Dear coco9, to be honest, I still actually doubt whether what you've stated about your level could be true. You do mean rotation 13 ball ghost?
You actually can win this this game more than every once in a while, as a race to nine? If so, I'd certainly say this is world speed, unless your table has some horrible buckets as pockets.
So if you struggle with tournament play with this type of practice speed, I would strongly suggest you to take some instruction with mental play, after which you should be almost world class. I cannot suggest any instructors in mental game in America, but this forum can certainly come up with some.
Do not take this the wrong way, but I do find it hard to believe that you come here asking for your level with these statistics. I hope you all the best.
You actually can win this this game more than every once in a while, as a race to nine? If so, I'd certainly say this is world speed, unless your table has some horrible buckets as pockets.
So if you struggle with tournament play with this type of practice speed, I would strongly suggest you to take some instruction with mental play, after which you should be almost world class. I cannot suggest any instructors in mental game in America, but this forum can certainly come up with some.
Do not take this the wrong way, but I do find it hard to believe that you come here asking for your level with these statistics. I hope you all the best.
Occasionally would be the operative word..... And if you play the sets out or just start over with your 1st loss.... I can beat the 10ball ghost in a race to 9 more than occasionally if I discount my bad starts and only count the ones where I start with 3-4 games where I won....
Once I started every race I was going to do from the first break I had to wake up to the fact I had been cheating for a very long time.... Normally every break was game 1 if I had not gotten out on the previous rack.....
13 ball ghost would be 50/50 at best imho for the worlds best players on tough equipment until they got the break down... then maybe 65/35 at best....
Being honest to ourselves may be every bit as hard.... eeerrrr no... being honest to ourselves is way harder than just being honest day to day to those around us..................
Chris
This is how I see it. I know what it takes to beat the 10 ball ghost on a bar table. I've only just recently started beating it,but then again I only play maybe 10 hours a week,if that.
I'm gonna take you at your word,and assume you're beating the 13 ball ghost,table makes almost NO difference,as long as it doesn't have 8" pockets.
With that being the case,it means you need to make friends with a deep-pocketed backer,or find a way to come up with 20k on your own,and go looking for guys like Hennessee,Bartram,or Dechaine.
Even if you just break even in that game,until one of those guys or Shane/Archer shows up,if you play just your normal speed for money you SHOULD beat everyone you run into the rest of your life.
Maybe you catch someone on fire,or some bad rolls,someone out-safes you,but you could go almost anywhere and with a little tact and smarts,you could concievably bust the best player in any pool room or bar in America.
If I played that speed I'd be following Shane around for months at a time,or trying to put myself on TAR. I'd be capable of beating anyone breathing in a tournament. You see what I'm getting at? Tommy D.
I'm gonna take you at your word,and assume you're beating the 13 ball ghost,table makes almost NO difference,as long as it doesn't have 8" pockets.
With that being the case,it means you need to make friends with a deep-pocketed backer,or find a way to come up with 20k on your own,and go looking for guys like Hennessee,Bartram,or Dechaine.
Even if you just break even in that game,until one of those guys or Shane/Archer shows up,if you play just your normal speed for money you SHOULD beat everyone you run into the rest of your life.
Maybe you catch someone on fire,or some bad rolls,someone out-safes you,but you could go almost anywhere and with a little tact and smarts,you could concievably bust the best player in any pool room or bar in America.
If I played that speed I'd be following Shane around for months at a time,or trying to put myself on TAR. I'd be capable of beating anyone breathing in a tournament. You see what I'm getting at? Tommy D.
yeah really are you trying to be funny, the top pros probably beat the 13 ball ghost only occasionally,and you dont know the level you play at,give me a break....lol
Thanks for the reply, yeah i do occasionly scrap if i have a bad start but wouldnt restart all the time if i didnt have a great start if that makes sense!
Hi and thanks for the reply! I am pretty surprised by what you are saying, i know i can play the game but didnt think even my top speed was close to pro standard.
I think for me beating the 13 ball ghost as hard as it is to do is a bit of a false way to judge.
I am a rhythm player and vs the ghost there is no opponent to break my rhythm and once i get in stroke i know i can play strong. In normal match's what lets me down is losing my game when i am frozen out for a while or knowing that one mistake costs me big. Vs the ghost one mistake only costs me 1 rack then im back at the table and able to keep in stroke.
Does that make sense? Also my offence is better than my defence again making the ghost an easier opponent.
I think from what you guys are saying that if i could improve mentally, defensively etc then i could compete at a very high level. I know when i am beating the 13 ball ghost everything is coming easy to me and I KNOW i am not going to miss. At other times my arm feels like someone elses! I guess its the consistency we are all looking for!
Yeah good point, wish i had recorded my last set vs the ghost, will do so next time.
Call me skeptical. You just joined, and one of your first posts is "pat me on the back, pool community. I want others to comment on my great playing, and I'm going to set up a fact pattern that no one could believe and assert it's true. Oh, there is no video and no one saw it. But it's really really really really true. "
There are a good number of A, A+ and open players here. There are a handful of pros. These folks really do know how hard it is to beat the 10-ball ghost. Must less the 13-ball ghost. They understand the commitment and hard work it takes to get there.
There are also a LOT of betters, sweaters, rail birds and serious gamblers. They've seen the impossible happen and lost their shirts on good bets gone bad. These guys can spot a poser when the walk in the pool hall and know when barking gives away a pigeon/fish/ATM. They can small BS pretty far away.
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but having been around here for a [long] while - I've seen a crapton of posts with people wanting the interwebs to make them a superhero. Anyone can beat the 13-ball ghost on this forum. And throw a 100 MPH fast ball on the baseball forum. And golf at 5 under par. And run a 3 minute mile. And date a supermodel. And drive 12 Ferraris. And climb Mt. Everest in 2 hours. And fly the space shuttle. And talk to unicorns.
Personally, I beat the 19-ball ghost race to 100 everyday. I play on 2-tables at the same time and have to jump the cueball from one to the other. It's a hard game. Oh, I have no video, but it's true. See, when the fact pattern gets so wacky, it's kinda hard to believe.
And, you may be the one poster (in the history of the internet) that just started their forum account and reported a most incredible story with no support or evidence and there was no creative liberty taken in the recounting. You may also be the newest (and one of the few) players in the world that can beat the 13-ball ghost. That's a few "mays." But, as the saying goes, if a story appears too good to be true...
-td [just sayin' what everyone is thinking]
There are a good number of A, A+ and open players here. There are a handful of pros. These folks really do know how hard it is to beat the 10-ball ghost. Must less the 13-ball ghost. They understand the commitment and hard work it takes to get there.
There are also a LOT of betters, sweaters, rail birds and serious gamblers. They've seen the impossible happen and lost their shirts on good bets gone bad. These guys can spot a poser when the walk in the pool hall and know when barking gives away a pigeon/fish/ATM. They can small BS pretty far away.
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but having been around here for a [long] while - I've seen a crapton of posts with people wanting the interwebs to make them a superhero. Anyone can beat the 13-ball ghost on this forum. And throw a 100 MPH fast ball on the baseball forum. And golf at 5 under par. And run a 3 minute mile. And date a supermodel. And drive 12 Ferraris. And climb Mt. Everest in 2 hours. And fly the space shuttle. And talk to unicorns.
Personally, I beat the 19-ball ghost race to 100 everyday. I play on 2-tables at the same time and have to jump the cueball from one to the other. It's a hard game. Oh, I have no video, but it's true. See, when the fact pattern gets so wacky, it's kinda hard to believe.
And, you may be the one poster (in the history of the internet) that just started their forum account and reported a most incredible story with no support or evidence and there was no creative liberty taken in the recounting. You may also be the newest (and one of the few) players in the world that can beat the 13-ball ghost. That's a few "mays." But, as the saying goes, if a story appears too good to be true...
-td [just sayin' what everyone is thinking]
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JC
Coos Cues
How many dime bags of BS in a crapton?
If you can beat the 13-ball ghost occasionally you're about as good as a one-eyed Filipino with an inner ear infection.
p.s. video or it didn't happen.
p.s. video or it didn't happen.
Ok well you have got it completely wrong but appreciate your response and I do understand where you are coming from.
I think my post where i explained that me beating the 13 ball ghost (much less often then i lose might i add) is suggesting I am a better player than i am due to the reasons i explained previously.
I am very surprised if im honest at how big a task it is being made out to be to beat the ghost because i know these things as FACT:
1. I have beaten (not regular but have beaten) the 13 ball ghost
2. I have been beaten by A LOT of players who i simply was not in there class.
I think rather than suggest I am some poser or liar I think you should consider it is the case that you are underestimating the top players and that they could beat the 13 ball and probably 14 ball ghost a lot more often than you think.
If i am 100% honest yes I know i can play but no this was not a pat me on the back attempt it was a player who feels they are under performing, not reaching their potential and wanting to know what others (experts) deemed my potential was if I could sort out the mental side of my game.
If that is a crime i apologise.
I think my post where i explained that me beating the 13 ball ghost (much less often then i lose might i add) is suggesting I am a better player than i am due to the reasons i explained previously.
I am very surprised if im honest at how big a task it is being made out to be to beat the ghost because i know these things as FACT:
1. I have beaten (not regular but have beaten) the 13 ball ghost
2. I have been beaten by A LOT of players who i simply was not in there class.
I think rather than suggest I am some poser or liar I think you should consider it is the case that you are underestimating the top players and that they could beat the 13 ball and probably 14 ball ghost a lot more often than you think.
If i am 100% honest yes I know i can play but no this was not a pat me on the back attempt it was a player who feels they are under performing, not reaching their potential and wanting to know what others (experts) deemed my potential was if I could sort out the mental side of my game.
If that is a crime i apologise.
See Urban Dictionary definitions 1 and 9: A crap ton is a metric measurement equal to 4 sh*t loads. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crap ton
Because it's metric, it doesn't convert to dime bags. But it would be about 7413 Eurobags.
-td
Because it's metric, it doesn't convert to dime bags. But it would be about 7413 Eurobags.
-td