What makes the Filipinos SO STRONG!

[Mowem down]

It's amazing how your language skills come and go even before this last BS post. Your threat was noted. No more needs be said.

Hu

If a little sarcasm frightens you, I guess we know who has no heart hu....And like I said befor its been noted my grammar skills are far from Harvard level, but if Ebonics is recognized as grammar, my spelling things the way I say them is oh so good enough for me...you got one more thing right enough said, but thanks its been well worth the ticket...

P.S. And you, yea you I know you've been laughing, you can pay me later
Mowem Down

 

[Hierovision]

I know you're looking for a more experienced post but this is my perspective as a pool athlete.

If my country rewarded professional pool players with the same glory, social standing, and monetary compensation as NBA players or pro boxers I would become a whole lot more serious about training and growing my skill.

It's like the NFL in this country. If a team of football players came to the US from Sweden and challenged the Giants... well that might not be very pretty. And no I'm not a fan of the Giants I just picked a random skilled team

 

[gopi-1]

My guess is that they have a better work ethic.This means they do what it takes to prepare to win.I suspect they practice scientifically,shooting drills that actually improve their talents and share ideas that help each other.

errr, we're talking about the Filipinos here, not the Taiwanese...

 

[gopi-1]

Alot of good points here and I liked what Mowem said too. Pool is not a priority anymore in the US. There are better sports for guys with great hand-eye coordination to play and make a living at. Just like boxing, our best athletes can make considerably more playing baseball, football or basketball. That's the reason the American boxers don't compete as well anymore. Peyton Manning will make more in one year than any of the top boxers will in their career unless they get a Delahoya fight.

A boxer named Manny Pacquiao just made $18 million by banging somebody for 24 minutes, it's not even a full half in football...

 

[gopi-1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyA
You can say what you want, what makes the Filipinos play so strong is they are just LUCKY.

JoeyA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Helfert
Especially Efren! He's been getting all the rolls for over 20 years.

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So, does anyone know what type of charm those Filipinos use? I am going all in for an authentic Filipino Charm that works. Getting tired of getting beat.
JoeyA

Here Joey, pick one...

 

[gopi-1]

A simple truth - American pool players learn how to use low english very effectively. Most American players are experts at controlling the cue ball hitting low on the ball. Works particularly well for 9-Ball. Now watch the filipino players. They use high english just as effectively. They can go forward just as well (if not better) as backward.

Bottom line - We do not follow the ball as well as the filipino players. You don't believe me, just watch sometime. They learned this playing Rotation, where drawing the ball is not always an option. The only American player I ever saw who followed his ball as well as the top filipino's (like Parica, Efren and Dennis) was Earl.

Why is this important? Because you can play more accurate position following the ball. Don't believe me, then ask some experts, see what they say.

I say amen Jay! I used to "follow" most of my shots if the situation permits, with both minimal or loads
of side english going 2 rails and my CB usually ends up half an inch or less to where I want it to be!

Is it magic or what?

 

[gopi-1]

It's a cycle, or perhaps better put, a downward spiral. When the economy is strong people have money free to gamble with, backers and players. When money is tight, gambling money is used for other things and all action slows to a crawl. When you are staying in action you are more willing to take chances. When action is hard to find it can take a long time to recover from a good sized loss and people are more careful with their stake.

When times are good, gambling feeds on itself in an upwards spiral. When times are bad we see this downward spiral. People are spending their gambling money on bills and other foolishness.

Hu

Weird...

Back there in the Philippines, when money's tight, gambling thrives...

 

[JoeyA]

Weird...

Back there in the Philippines, when money's tight, gambling thrives...

Is it easier to win, when the money's tight? :grin-square:
JoeyA

 

[gopi-1]

Is it easier to win, when the money's tight? :grin-square:
JoeyA

Gambling is the only racket in town there, even on the rainy days.

... and the only easy money you'll find there is if you hit the triple 7 on your trip to the ATM machine!

 

[Renegade]

As for now the Filipinos are dominating, not the americans. The US cannot always dominate every sport.

I think the europeans are the dominant force right now, imo. last year, the filipinos only placed well in the DCC. everything else of importance was won by a european.

 

[Renegade]

This last year, BMPAP first year, our progress in developing players have been truly amazing. The top keeps getting pushed to give all they've got because these young guys keep on getting ever so close. No respect at all anymore, no fear. We can have a Filipino Invasion all over again. All unknowns and they'd make waves there in the USA. For a sneak peek, ask Mika about Jordan.

now that's a scary thought! any of them going to the dcc, bandido?

 

[ShootingArts]

you are busted, a fake and fraud

If a little sarcasm frightens you, I guess we know who has no heart hu....And like I said befor its been noted my grammar skills are far from Harvard level, but if Ebonics is recognized as grammar, my spelling things the way I say them is oh so good enough for me...you got one more thing right enough said, but thanks its been well worth the ticket...

P.S. And you, yea you I know you've been laughing, you can pay me later
Mowem Down

I noted the threat. Now I note that you are a fake and a fraud. Your claimed persona and assumed writing style are busted. Your grammar skills and spelling is faked. You couldn't play games with me without showing your speed.

Since Mowem Down is an assumed persona it is almost certain you are a previously banned poster or you are here under more than one ID, also a violation of the ROE.

Like someone trying to hustle on a pool table, you are as transparent as glass to most of us.

Hu

 

[ShootingArts]

Weird...

Back there in the Philippines, when money's tight, gambling thrives...

Gambling is the only racket in town there, even on the rainy days.

Your reply to JoeyA reveals the real difference in our nations. Even when money is tight here, the vast majority of our people have money for necessities. Most gamblers and backers derive their primary income from full time jobs or businesses. Gambling is discretionary spending for most so it is cut back or stopped.

Hu

 

[Mowem down]

I noted the threat. Now I note that you are a fake and a fraud. Your claimed persona and assumed writing style are busted. Your grammar skills and spelling is faked. You couldn't play games with me without showing your speed.

Since Mowem Down is an assumed persona it is almost certain you are a previously banned poster or you are here under more than one ID, also a violation of the ROE.

Like someone trying to hustle on a pool table, you are as transparent as glass to most of us.

Hu

By this point your on the floor in laughing, call me when your stomach stops hurting.

 

[chickentony]

two possible reasons I dont remember being mentioned

1. We start playing younger over here. In the US most people encounter pool in bars where you have to be twenty one or in shady pool halls taht are not great places for kids to hang out. Here they have many pool halls across the street and in malls where kids can play.

I remember when I was a younger back in 99 or 2000 after Efren won the WPC. Pool was so popular you could walk in the mall and everybody was carrying a cue. The Mall where I lived had 2 pool halls and a bowling alley with tables.All full and all of us kids would play after school and bet each others cues.

2. We learn to play on the big table here. There are no bar tables here.

 

[ccshrimper]

A boxer named Manny Pacquiao just made $18 million by banging somebody for 24 minutes, it's not even a full half in football...

If you read all of my post, I said unless they fight Delahoya! That was the only payday left in boxing and I don't think anyone else will get paid again after watching him get hammered.

 

[JB Cases]

If you read all of my post, I said unless they fight Delahoya! That was the only payday left in boxing and I don't think anyone else will get paid again after watching him get hammered.

Doesn't that make beating Manny (or trying to) the next payday?

 

[ShootingArts]

a very few big money fights regardless

If you read all of my post, I said unless they fight Delahoya! That was the only payday left in boxing and I don't think anyone else will get paid again after watching him get hammered.

There are only a few big money fights regardless and few people realize how many ways the money is split. Owners, trainers, managers, agents, on and on, they all get a slice. There are a lot of expenses too. A fighter trains 365 days a year and only gets a few paychecks. Most fighter are lucky to get ahead.

A friend boxed in one of the less popular classes and was ranked top twenty in the world for much of his pro career. He had a smart wife looking after his money and was able to buy a decent middle class home when he retired. That blew his capital though and he and his wife both worked nine to five jobs.

Hu

 

[poolplayer2093]

Ok,

I understand that they match up a lot for relatively small money and play hard for it to establish the pecking order.

BUT

We have jam up run out players who can and do string racks and can play just about perfect for hours on end.

So my question is this:

Why can our players (US Players) NOT beat the Filipinos when they match up?

Why wouldn't there be a line of US Players at DCC chomping at the bit to get matched up with the Filipino players?

I know it's tough action but surely they can play $500 sets or something? Why wouldn't they be welcoming the opportunity to spar with the Filipinos in the same way that the Filipinos spar with each other?

Why are US Players scared to match up with Filipinos? (and yes I know that any of them will match up when they are backed).

Are there any American players who will play EVEN against any of the Filipinos (besides Shane)?

I would hate to see the DCC come and go with most of the Filipino contingent OUT of action because everyone is afraid to play.

what makes the filipinos so strong? the fact that the whole country supports pool. if america supported pool as much as the PI does then i think we'd have way more players that played as good or better than the PI does (just based on population)

 

[Colin Colenso]

How much do the top 40 in the US practice versus the top 40 in the Philippines?

My guess is that will provide the answer.

If you want the US players to practice more, the sport needs more money and more respect. Telling someone you're a pro-pool player in the US has a very different effect to a Philippino saying the same thing over there.

People tend not to dedicate themselves to a career that is likely to pay less than a laboring job.

Colin