What shots have you seen made on a valley that couldn't be made on any other table?

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jaime_lion

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So I'm legitimately curious please be serious with your answers. But I am curious what shots have you seen made on a valley that couldn't be made anywhere else? And can you keep it in layman's terms like can you explain the shots and stuff cuz if you say something like it was the third diamond on the rail that banked and did stuff I wouldn't really know what that meant.
 
Little restaurant in the next town over has a Valley that must have pockets over 5 and a half inches wide. I’ll place a takeout order and shoot a few racks from time to time.

I’ve never played on any other table where you could cheat the pocket so much on a straight in shot. It allows you to create enough angle to get darn near anywhere you want. I guess you can do that to some extent on any table with big pockets, but these pockets are gigundous.
 
When we used to play with that big ball you could cut any shot in from any angle. Just hit it super thin and it would fly into the pocket.
 
VarmintKong said:
Little restaurant in the next town over has a Valley that must have pockets over 5 and a half inches wide. I’ll place a takeout order and shoot a few racks from time to time.

I’ve never played on any other table where you could cheat the pocket so much on a straight in shot. It allows you to create enough angle to get darn near anywhere you want. I guess you can do that to some extent on any table with big pockets, but these pockets are gigundous.
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My apartment complex has an 8’ table with similar gigantic pockets and shallow shelves. It’s a joke of a table but it’s actually nice to build confidence on it. I feel like SVB running balls and it helps get my stroke loosened up before I go to league.
 
jaime_lion said:
So I'm legitimately curious please be serious with your answers. But I am curious what shots have you seen made on a valley that couldn't be made anywhere else? And can you keep it in layman's terms like can you explain the shots and stuff cuz if you say something like it was the third diamond on the rail that banked and did stuff I wouldn't really know what that meant.
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Basically the difference is short shelves and wide pockets. Many shots will go that wouldn't on a "proper" table. Two balls in the same pocket side by side. Balls sneaked past pocket blockers. Balls hit poorly into the rail that still go because of massive pockets. Easier tough cuts because of massive pockets. Etc. You're not going to find a list, it simply boils down to large pockets that allow more wiggle room for poor shots, or more of a target for well hit shots.

Valleys were made to eat quarters to make faster income for the owner. Think of old arcade games and how fast they could eat quarters, same concept. Basically the easiest, ball munching pockets they could and still resemble pool. They are fun to play on but much easier than other tables.
 
Cue ball shot off the table, then the bartenders titty and back onto table. This could happen on any table. But that bartender in the dive bar was the only one who liked it. And it was on a valley….I think Shane was the one who shot it. Oh and for a real shot. 8 rail bank. That rocket Could drop in any pocket. But I’m talking 6ft valley.
 
mikemosconi said:
The last shot that I remember on a Valley is when I made the 8 ball and the guy who owed me ran out the front door of the bar into the night! True story:)
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Gets air barreled... welp, that's the last time I'm playing on these Valleys. :) I think the story of him running away would be more valuable than the money from sets I play.
 
I did see a slightly sloppy stop shot to drop the 8 into the top left corner and the cue ball was creeping along the short rail directly toward the other pocket. The cloth was so fast and the table rolled off so bad that the cue would up about one diamond away from the head rail and a couple of inches away from the side rail.
 
A teammate in Vegas cuts an almost frozen ball into the side pocket.
He called it, slow rolled it from almost 2” out and I swear 1/8” off the rail.
It gets to the shelf and slowly goes over the edge.
 
VarmintKong said:
Little restaurant in the next town over has a Valley that must have pockets over 5 and a half inches wide. I’ll place a takeout order and shoot a few racks from time to time.

I’ve never played on any other table where you could cheat the pocket so much on a straight in shot. It allows you to create enough angle to get darn near anywhere you want. I guess you can do that to some extent on any table with big pockets, but these pockets are gigundous.
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Designed to do one thing: MAKE MONEY. The faster balls go in the pockets the faster the coins go in the table. That simple.
 
It all depends. I played a lot in a bar back in the day on a Valley 88. The balls would fall in. The bar made lots of money. My second table is an old 88. But Penguin cushions and tight pockets. Way different. The older I get the more I want to open those pockets up. Maybe put on some old nappy cloth too. Just for old times sake you understand.
 
jaime_lion said:
So I'm legitimately curious please be serious with your answers. But I am curious what shots have you seen made on a valley that couldn't be made anywhere else? And can you keep it in layman's terms like can you explain the shots and stuff cuz if you say something like it was the third diamond on the rail that banked and did stuff I wouldn't really know what that meant.
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A hard hit ball actually bouncing back out of the pocket and going in another pocket.
 
A newbie young guy got a ball stuck in a brand new Valley table at league one night. He was on the owner's team. What'd he do?

He picked up one end of it and dropped it a foot onto the floor! The owner about shit.

Try that with a big table.


Jeff Livingston

PS The ball came out.
 
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