If the 9 falls on a combo, it gets spotted, but you can keep shooting.
What speed am I?
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speed.
It's amazing that you are winning with the ghost with those scores and 4 sets in a row. Many pool players can't do it. That tells me that probably are a good shot maker and you got a good eye.
May be try playing the ghost as suggested here to get an idea of your rating :-
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/ratings.html#15-ball
Rack up some 10 ball. Break from anywhere. After the break, take ball in hand and run out, in rotation (1, 2, 3, etc...) All balls made on the break count. Any balls made on a scratch are spotted. [Added by dr_dave: A scratch incurs a 2-point penalty.] Once you miss, the rack is over. You should shoot 10 racks and count the total balls made for each rack. After 10 racks, take your total and compare it to this chart:
[added by dr_dave: <30 D]
30-35 D+
36-40 C
41-45 C+
46-50 B
51-55 B+
56-60 A
61-65 A+
66-70 A++
71-up Pro
It's amazing that you are winning with the ghost with those scores and 4 sets in a row. Many pool players can't do it. That tells me that probably are a good shot maker and you got a good eye.
May be try playing the ghost as suggested here to get an idea of your rating :-
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/ratings.html#15-ball
Rack up some 10 ball. Break from anywhere. After the break, take ball in hand and run out, in rotation (1, 2, 3, etc...) All balls made on the break count. Any balls made on a scratch are spotted. [Added by dr_dave: A scratch incurs a 2-point penalty.] Once you miss, the rack is over. You should shoot 10 racks and count the total balls made for each rack. After 10 racks, take your total and compare it to this chart:
[added by dr_dave: <30 D]
30-35 D+
36-40 C
41-45 C+
46-50 B
51-55 B+
56-60 A
61-65 A+
66-70 A++
71-up Pro
Remove post, i didnt do that!
The top of the ratings you listed.
takeitdown
Banned
It's a barbox!!! My 7 year old runs out on those.
takeitdown
Banned
Play short races to 6 for 200-500 a set where losing 6-0 wins double the bet and a tie hill hill is stop, restart set and double the bet. Then you will learn how good you are.
Running out on a barbox in your home with ball in hand isn't too tough but still awesome. I broke and ran 12 racks of 9 ball without ball in hand on a Valley barbox. After awhile it's just break make a ball see any trouble balls and get out. Just be the boss.
Please create a new thread with a video of your son beating the 9b ghost in a race to 10.
How long had you been playing pool prior to running a 12-pack on a valley barbox? 2 years or so?
I've been playing for 8 yrs now and I've had GC3 with 4-3/8 pockets and just started beating the ghost 50% of the time in the past year! I think your right, my aspirations of becoming an A player are totally out the window
I guess I ain't got what it takes!takeitdown
Banned
No almost 20. Running out on a barbox is a lot easier game. With 5 balls open you should never blow an out. Usually one or two tricky position zones in a full rack. There are no truly hard shots on a barbox if you mostly play big table games. Plus for me the change of play on a barbox gets me focused and in dead pump.
There really isn't anyone I wouldn't try on a barbox because anybody can dominate. I mean it's a one player at a time game. If your are running they can't stop you.
I imagine there are many basement warriors who play near shortstop bar box pool but for whatever reason just don't play out of the house much. There is a lot of time to improve your game when the table is right downstairs. Fortunately for me I have 2 tables GC I and Valley BB in my home so I don't have a good excuse when I dog.
Right. The OP claims he can beat the 9b ghost 4 straight races to 10 after only having played pool for 2 years. See the difference?
Read the op again, i cheated.
Banks
Banned
Early 9s or not, a month ago you posted you're an APA 4 in the Chicago area. Now, even with early 9s, you beat the ghost 40-19? Not happening. No way, no how.
Not to knock your accomplishments, but if you throw in the magic rack and some loose pockets and this is as easy as the ghost gets, so most people won't know how to compare this to playing the ghost with a regular rack on 9' table that has reasonably tight pockets and no 9-ball combos. I'm assuming most of your losses are from missed position, but without having video showing how you missed you position, it's hard to say your speed from the numbers alone. If you consistently beat the ghost 2/3 of the time, you're obviously doing something right, even if it's a crippled ghost, so you may well be an APA 9, but there is a very broad range of players in that category since it is everything from a decent B player on up to the best "amateur" player you can find.
FYI, several "playing the ghost" drills and rating systems are described in detail here:
"playing the ghost" rating drills resource page
The Billiard University (BU) playing-ability Exams and Rating System are also useful for measuring your skills in all areas. If you try them out, please post scores (and videos if possible) on the AZB BU thread, as many others have.
FYI, here's a useful chart comparing the different rating and handicapping systems out there.
Good luck,
Dave
Beating the ghost consistently, even on a 7 footer, makes you a solid B player in the majority of areas, and would make you an SL7 in APA 8 ball. Playing at that level is well above the norm, even for those on this site, which is why people are questioning your statement so strongly. Also, people that play at the level you are stating, usually have a decent idea where they sit. We hear people make claims often on here regarding their playing level that are inflated, so it creates some level of skepticism when someone says they are new to pool, but beat the 9 ball ghost routinely, especially with the scores you posted on a Diamond table.. That being said, I am sure it could be done by someone with 2 years of experience if the person practiced 10-20 focused hours a week over that time.
Often times, guaging your speed would be easier and less questionable if there was video to see your stroke, pattern play, and type of racks you are getting out in. It would also eliminate any need to validate your statements. If you want a real opinion of your speed, go down and play the ghost on video,and post it up here. Don't stop and restart the video until you run the first rack. Almost every video we see of someone playing the ghost starts with the person running the first rack. Play a legit race to 10 against the ghost and post it up, and you will get many people on here willing to give you a fair assessment.
Often times, guaging your speed would be easier and less questionable if there was video to see your stroke, pattern play, and type of racks you are getting out in. It would also eliminate any need to validate your statements. If you want a real opinion of your speed, go down and play the ghost on video,and post it up here. Don't stop and restart the video until you run the first rack. Almost every video we see of someone playing the ghost starts with the person running the first rack. Play a legit race to 10 against the ghost and post it up, and you will get many people on here willing to give you a fair assessment.
I don't care what size table or pockets are being used, running out requires a certain skill set where cue ball control, pattern play, and even ball pocketing are at a certain level. This level of play does not come without significant work, even on a barbox. Is it easier, sure, but not easy. The average Joe who plays every week at the bar on the barbox couldn't go 40 and 19 vs the ghost if I gave them 7-8 open balls with BIH on a barbox, so this task still isn't THAT easy.