What State Has Produced the Most High Caliber Players?

What weight is NC going to give up?

All the California players only beat up on other California players.
What will the Carolina players give up to get the action?

We are talking about native born Carolina players right?

And we are talking about just 9 ball, or do you want to include One Pocket also?
 
Tom In Cincy said:
All the California players only beat up on other California players.
What will the Carolina players give up to get the action?

We are talking about native born Carolina players right?
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I knew someone would eventually do this. Conversation, dude, conversation. I like to hear and reminisce with names.

Also, how about Derek Leonard aka Chewy?
 
Forum Dewd, Forum... this is a discussion...

You open a topic about what state has produced the best players? who declares who is BEST if not the best play against each other?

Woofing is CONVERSATION DEWD!!!


crawfish said:
I knew someone would eventually do this. Conversation, dude, conversation. I like to hear and reminisce with names.

Also, how about Derek Leonard aka Chewy?
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Aaron_S said:
Hard to argue with NC on this one. Can't believe nobody's mentioned the mayor yet, Wimpy Lassiter. He and Earl make quite a one-two. New York, California and TX could probably compile long lists of champions as well.

Aaron

*Edit - Sorry, Lassiter was mentioned in the first post and I missed it.
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Actually, I think it's quite the opposite. I would not put New York - at least, not New York City. We have a couple of great players from the area but on the whole, very few professional calibre players have emerged in the past 10 years. The big names in 2009 are the same big names from 1999 and I don't see that changing any time soon.

On the amateur level, we have a nice crop of players. I'd say we have an unusually high number of good amateur players. If you look at it in terms of "per capita", it doesn't look as good. I think we have a strong amateur female base which has produced some solid WPBA players. I think that's the most we can point to.

I've seen the amateur teams from NC, Oh, Tx and they're just awesome. My guess, prior to reading this thread, would go to Ohio but that's only from the limited experience I have playing in Vegas.
 
crawfish said:
Holy shi@, how did we forget Cliff?



Man, Whimpy, Earl, Cliff. How'd you like to fade those three?
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Off the top without thinking about it much.
Nick Varner, Buddy hall, Cornbread Red from Ky. Cornbread was from Fulton ky/tenn, state line was main st. don't know which side of town he's from. Previously mentioned Sammy Jones, John Hager, Jimmy " Flyboy" Spears, John Edwards Had a pool room in Bowling Green, beat most road players of the day in the 70's, most everyone except Miz. Someone could play bank pool in every town, in KY. But N.C. was premier pool state !
Rod.
 
APA Gene said:
How good is Mike Fuller? I see he is playing in the APA National Singles Championships this year. (SKL 7 obviously)
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Good enough that he always cashes at the US Open...and by always I do mean always. If I'm not mistaken he's cashed every single time he's ever entered it. I knew one of his really good friends and they told me that before. If he's playing APA I look for him to win the national championship this year.
 
The way I heard it, from a reliable source -- :grin-square: -- the East Coast couldn't beat the West Coast, especially the player(s) from California. So they changed the rules from two-shot/push-out to what they are today, turning pool into a luck game, so they could start booking a few winners. :o

Before then, again, according to my source, the California player(s) gave the world the 8. :nanner:
 
crawfish said:
Once again, I'm a proud APA 3. I have a jacket with two, count'em two, break and run patches.
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I will take you on my team if you can get your handicap down to a 2.

OH yeah, and slack up on those break and run patches.....that's a bit over the top for a three and definitely out of this world for a 2.
JoeyA
 
JAM said:
The way I heard it, from a reliable source -- :grin-square: -- the East Coast couldn't beat the West Coast, especially the player(s) from California. So they changed the rules from two-shot/push-out to what they are today, turning pool into a luck game, so they could start booking a few winners. :o

Before then, again, according to my source, the California player(s) gave the world the 8. :nanner:
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Im sure that opinion wasnt one-sided...:rolleyes:

Voodoo~~~thinks that statement is as false as Washington's wooden teeth :dance:
 
All greatness comes from NC. Just wanted to settle this now and for all! :wink:
 
See, now isn't this fun? NC might not have overall produced the best, but the normal level is quite high. Sucks.
 
APA Gene said:
How good is Mike Fuller? I see he is playing in the APA National Singles Championships this year. (SKL 7 obviously)
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7th at the 2008 Derby City Classic 9-ball division. Notable victories in that tournament were over Belinda Calhoun, Tyler Edey, and Efren Reyes. He's pretty good :D.

And before any bull$h!t starts, Mike is an amateur. Ability should have no bearing on amateur status.

-djb
 
Is this an all-time list? Then I'd have top go with New York, we haven't produced much in recent times but there's a great past here. There's Mike Sigel, Irving Crane, Babe Cranfield, Cisero Murphy, Joe Balsis, Gene Nagy, Johnny Ervolino, Michael Eufemia, Jeanette Lee, George "Ginky" SanSouci, Tony Robles, George Mikula...I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple here.

There's 6 world champions on that list, and all except two have won major events. There are also 8 players on the list with high runs in 14.1 of over 300 balls (two of them over 400 balls).

P.S. I forgot Dennis Hatch!

P.P.S. Johnny Irish Lineen - although I'm not sure if he was actually raised in New York.
 
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Jude Rosenstock said:
Actually, I think it's quite the opposite. I would not put New York - at least, not New York City. We have a couple of great players from the area but on the whole, very few professional calibre players have emerged in the past 10 years. The big names in 2009 are the same big names from 1999 and I don't see that changing any time soon.
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Don't sell your state short, Jude. NY may not have turned out a huge number of champions recently, but there are more than a few notables from earlier years: Mike Sigel, Jean Balukas, Willie Hoppe, Frank Taberski, Irving Crane, Fatty, Cisero Murphy, Babe Cranfield, and those are just the HOF'ers!

Aaron
 
Bobby said:
Is this an all-time list? Then I'd have top go with New York, we haven't produced much in recent times but there's a great past here. There's Mike Sigel, Irving Crane, Babe Carnfield, Cisero Murphy, Joe Balsis, Gene Nagy, Johnny Ervolino, Michael Eufemia, Jeanette Lee, George "Ginky" SanSouci, Tony Robles, George Mikula...I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple here.

There's 6 world champions on that list, and all except two have won major events. There are also 8 players on the list with high runs in 14.1 of over 300 balls (two of them over 400 balls).

P.S. I forgot Dennis Hatch!

P.P.S. Johnny Irish Lineen - although I'm not sure if he was actually raised in New York.
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Pretty damn impressive. What a list!
 
What is an amateur

If anyone enters a National Amateur Championship which pays no money, they are an Amateur. There is no handicap therefore all things are equal. No cash, just prestige is all you win. It is a title not many players can lay claim too. That's special. To be the best you must beat the best, whoever it may be. The APA National Amateur Champioship is the the most competive Amateur event held in this country every year.
 
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