What tip you do you play with?

Sealegs50

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I prefer hard tips. Most play pretty similarly and they last for a long time. I have had very good experiences with Instroke, G2, Precision, and Talisman Pro (brown). My favorite tips are Talisman Water Buffalo Hard and Zan Grip Hard, both are a bit harder than the other tips. I like playing with Triangle tips but they don’t last as long for me.
 

sbrownn

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Speaking of tips, are there any places that will put on a tip to a carbon fiber shaft in Towson, MD? Thanks
this is a common and ongoing challenge everywhere: less and less people that know how to do quality tip and shaft work using a lathe in a decent regional distance radius from centralized pool playing groups and activities...
 

sbrownn

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this is a common and ongoing challenge everywhere: less and less people that know how to do quality tip and shaft work using a lathe in a decent regional distance radius from centralized pool playing groups and activities...
we lost two very good ones in the last few years in the Seattle area: Dave Jones and Paul Allers
 

sbrownn

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Before I begin I will add my standard disclaimer: if you find something you like, USE IT. Just because something is popular or more expensive does not mean it is better.

I tend to prefer a harder tip for a variety of reasons, but mostly because they last longer and hold their original shape and feel. Softer tips eventually become hard tips, so if you want to retain the original feel you have to change them out more often. I have recently returned to generally using Medium tips, but anything softer doesn't feel right to me.

A few years ago I started doing my own tip work, and now I do it for other people as well. I wanted to be able to make recommendations outside the norm, so I've been experimenting with lesser-known tips and have found some pleasant surprises.

I am not affiliated with any tip maker or brand, and I'm not trying to put down any of the tips or their makers, I'm just trying to be an honest broker. Take anything I say with a grain of salt and make up your own mind. That being said, these are my (highly unscientific) ratings at present:

Aramith
Most people don't know that Aramith makes tips - I did not know until another local mechanic recommended it to me (this was before I started doing my own tip work). I played with Aramith Hard for a couple years without changing them and was very satisfied with this tip. Rating: 7 of 10.

Kamikaze
These had been mentioned in other threads as a Kamui alternative, so I bought a few and ended up as my playing tip for about 6 months. I liked them enough that I installed them for several people, all of whom also reported positive feedback. This is a fine tip, especially at the price point of only $8 at Seyberts. I personally preferred the feel of the Medium over the feel of the Soft. I have no problem recommending this tip. Rating: 8 of 10.

Morakami
I had really high hopes for this tip based on other threads here, but it failed to meet expectations. The first one I tried to install ended up separating at the base layer while trimming it (meaning the first layer was still glued on, but the rest of the tip popped off). The second one I installed just felt bad and I cut it off a couple days later. Rating: 4 of 10.

Techno-dud
Again, I had high hopes for this, especially since it is not a layered tip, and it came highly recommended (I believe by Jennifer Baretta). So far this has been the worst of the lot. It had a terrible plinky noise and the Medium felt like a rock. Rating: 1 of 10.

Precision Layered Tips
I had never heard of these, but saw Scott Frost mention it in an interview. These are made by Dennis Searing, and according to Frost he spent a lot of time researching and developing these tips, and he claimed they are the best made today, so I decided to try it out. They are very easy to work with and feel great. I have been VERY impressed and this has become my go to tip, both for myself and others, and is currently my top recommendation when people ask me about tips. On top of that, they are only $10, which in my opinion is a steal! To my knowledge you can only buy them directly from Dennis's website [which needs a little work] at http://precisiontip.com/ Rating: 9 of 10.

NEW FIND AT THE EXPO:
Whitten
I have tons of respect for Joe Whitten and am a big fan of his case work. The quality is absolutely the best, and his approach to business and customer service cannot be beat. I fully recognize this may make me a tad biased, so I want to acknowledge that in advance. At the Expo this week, Joe was soft launching a new tip he is bringing to market. It is a pigskin layered tip made in Japan, but Joe brought his deep knowledge of leatherworks to the engineering of this product, and I know he would not put his name on it if it did not meet the highest quality standards.

I was able to try out several different hardnesses (he has S, MS, M, MH, and H) and they feel amazing! I ended up loving the feel of the Medium, so I bought a few and will be installing them on my playing shafts very soon. I cannot wait to put them through their paces. I can't give them a rating yet because I haven't installed them or played with them, but if what I sampled is any indication they could very possibly get a 10 of 10.
Are the Precision layered tips pigskin?
 

dendweller

AzB Gold Member
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You're in for a treat.


"Personally, I don't like Zan tips at all. When I was going through Mezz shafts, prior to buying my Vigus, I ended up removing them every time (Hybrid pro, Hybrid pro 2, Expro... tried just about every Mezz shaft). In fact, the ILC shaft I now use on my Mezz for Chinese-8 has a Searing tip, and I hate to say it with the bad press aimed that way (and for good reason from my readings here), it does play really well.
My other Mezz shafts I switched out for Longoni Fuji tips which I was gifted. They play lovely, but are also overpriced... I only have the ExPro shaft now, and it's a backup to the Vigus which is my 'forever' cue.
The Musashi Shaft I use on my Vigus right now came with a Moori Medium which, to its credit and my surprise, has played fantastic from the first hit.
I like Mike Wooldridge tips, and will go back to them when change is needed.
I heard good things about Thoroughbred tips from someone on the forum, but when I tried to add their rep on WeChat, he never accepted it...."

Posted this in a similar thread previously...

Have since put MW Supertips on all of my shafts. Don't regret it one bit. Now every cue I own is wearing the same hat (albeit Hards on the snooker cue and mediums on pool shafts)
so I saw this and took at look at Mike Wooldridge's site, biggest tip I see listed is 10mm.
 

Flakeandrun

Well-known member
so I saw this and took at look at Mike Wooldridge's site, biggest tip I see listed is 10mm.

Many stores have them on Taobao. Might be a case of what happens with 'ultimate cues' - maybe some Chinese sellers come and buy up all the stock, then sell them on Taobao, Xianyu etc etc... It's the reason there's a 10 year wait on John Parris cues after all (and I am sure the same can be said of pool cues to some extent). These giant wait lists kind of make a mockery of the custom cue business sometimes. It's much discussed in the snooker cue world.

If you want some, I can buy some and post them out. I get on well with these, and have bought enough of them to last me for many years. Unless I come across something that is any better. I'll be using these for the foreseeable.

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dendweller

AzB Gold Member
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Triangle period and consider layered tips a gimmick that will eventually leave flyspeck of glue on the cueball. I have yet to see a layered tip that doesn't.
Maybe, but that logic only makes sense on your home table, because once you're in a pool hall 90% are using layered tips. You'll get those specs whether you make em or not.
 

dendweller

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Many stores have them on Taboo. Might be a case of what happens with 'ultimate cues' - maybe some Chinese sellers come and buy up all the stock, then sell them on Taobao, Xianyu etc etc... It's the reason there's a 10 year wait on John Parris cues after all (and I am sure the same can be said of pool cues to some extent). These giant wait lists kind of make a mockery of the custom cue business sometimes. It's much discussed in the snooker cue world.

If you want some, I can buy some and post them out. I get on well with these, and have bought enough of them to last me for many years. Unless I come across something that is any better. I'll be using these for the foreseeable.

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Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on that. I have some precisions on the way, I'll see how those work out.
 

gregcantrall

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Maybe, but that logic only makes sense on your home table, because once you're in a pool hall 90% are using layered tips. You'll get those specs whether you make em or not.
Well the specks are the evidence that traction was broken between the tip and ball. That's never a good thing in My Book. 🤷‍♂️
 

NathanDetroit

AzB Silver Member
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I usually play Kamui ss, and really like them. I have two Rhino cf shafts (great shaft/purchase) with their standard 8 Layered High-Performance F1 Crystal Cue s/m Tip. Surprisingly I really like this tip. It probably wouldn't be my first choice if I had several choices, but still have these tips on both of the Rhinos I purchased and like them.
Had the F1 put on my player last night, and placed third in the chip tournament later.

Tournament was 9b, but was practicing 8b when the tech gave me the finished shaft. BnR first rack. Like it
 

Maniac

2manyQ's
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Had the F1 put on my player last night, and placed third in the chip tournament later.

Tournament was 9b, but was practicing 8b when the tech gave me the finished shaft. BnR first rack. Like it
I have three Rhino shafts. Still have the F1 on all three and see no reason to change them.
 

sbrownn

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Many stores have them on Taobao. Might be a case of what happens with 'ultimate cues' - maybe some Chinese sellers come and buy up all the stock, then sell them on Taobao, Xianyu etc etc... It's the reason there's a 10 year wait on John Parris cues after all (and I am sure the same can be said of pool cues to some extent). These giant wait lists kind of make a mockery of the custom cue business sometimes. It's much discussed in the snooker cue world.

If you want some, I can buy some and post them out. I get on well with these, and have bought enough of them to last me for many years. Unless I come across something that is any better. I'll be using these for the foreseeable.

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Not sure I could play and concentrate with something that color at the end of my cue.
 

HueblerHustler7

AndrewActionG
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Try out Ultra skin tips, I can recomend the Pro in the black series, medium or soft in the ivory series, and prolly soft in the fire series. I love Elkmasters, but you have to find the good ones and thats a pain but when you get one its a dream to hit with, they will stand up against any " Premium " tip IMHO and honestly won't glaze over at all or at least nearly as fast as layered tips. Triangles are pretty good, lepros are alright but hard to find good ones anymore. One of my all time favorite layered tip brand was Zan... But I'm done spending $30+ on a single tip, I go through them to quickly to justify it for myself. I enjoyed a HOW brand Hard as well, but once again, expensive.
 
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