What Unknown, or Little Know Cuemakers in 10 years will be the NEXT

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Anyone care to guess 10 year from now what Unknown, or Little Know Custom Cuemakers Cues will have Appreciated the Most, be the Most in Demand, or be the Cue people will be saying. I wish had had bought one of those when they were only_ _ _ _, and now there is a -_ _ Year wait to get one, and the price is Sky High.

I am talking about Beauty, Art, Hit, and all the Qualities that make a GREAT CUE....

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That's difficult to say, because I think a fair bit of has to do with marketing. I think there are many local makers building jam-up cues, but they keep it small and don't get known beyond their local area. Also, there are a lot of cuemakers today.

Seems like Kenneth Murrell is about to launch into the stratosphere.
 
LC3 said:
That's difficult to say, because I think a fair bit of has to do with marketing. I think there are many local makers building jam-up cues, but they keep it small and don't get known beyond their local area. Also, there are a lot of cuemakers today.
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Well said....
 
All it takes is for someone to keep writing and posting on forums about a certain cuemaker. Who is Ken Murrell? Had anyone heard or seen any of his cues before someone started posting on here? It seems as if there has been a lot of posts on his stuff lately.

I am sure in the next month or so another cuemaker will be getting a lot of exposure.
 
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If I was a betting man...which I am not...I would bet on Gilbert and Murrell's being the best bang for the buck right now. Over the long haul...I am not sure. To me, and this is strictly to me, the best cues are going overseas to the Japanese. Scruggs, Schick, SW, and others ship most of their higher end product to the Japanese from my understanding. I am not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing...but given the American economy, I can't say that I blame them. I mean it makes good business sense to sell them for the best money possible. Right now, America is in a bind financially, as we all are...so to predict who will be the next truly big cuemaker is a dice roll. We all want to find another Bushka...but it's just not happening.

Shorty
 
Andy Gilbert

Shorty said:
If I was a betting man...which I am not...I would bet on Gilbert and Murrell's being the best bang for the buck right now. Over the long haul...I am not sure. To me, and this is strictly to me, the best cues are going overseas to the Japanese. Scruggs, Schick, SW, and others ship most of their higher end product to the Japanese from my understanding. I am not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing...but given the American economy, I can't say that I blame them. I mean it makes good business sense to sell them for the best money possible. Right now, America is in a bind financially, as we all are...so to predict who will be the next truly big cuemaker is a dice roll. We all want to find another Bushka...but it's just not happening.

Shorty
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I agree, Shorty. Andy Gilbert is the next super star.
 
TheBook said:
All it takes is for someone to keep writing and posting on forums about a certain cuemaker.
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That could be right, but I doubt this forum has enough clout to sway the true collectors.

Who is Ken Murrell? Had anyone heard or seen any of his cues before someone started posting on here? It seems as if there has been a lot of posts on his stuff lately.
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I have no clue who he is. And really, I'm shocked that he would be considered for an answer. Sounds awful, but there are so many other names.

If Andy Gilbert is still "Little Known," then IMO, there's nobody else that matches his art and construction. But, at this time, he's gotten more and more popular, having some kind of status in the Lucky and Dr. Wu stratosphere. Maybe soon, he'll start only making fancy cues, but that doesn't seem to be his nature.

Fred
 
I don't think he's unknown, more like unrecognized, but I think Wes Hunter makes a tremendous cue. Hunter Cues

For new cuemakers I really like Blackcreek cues.

Jim
 
IMHO - Jim Buss

Jim is very well known and respected for his current cues and knowledge - BUT - He is still working 40 hours per week at his engineering profession.
When he finally retires and starts making cues FULL TIME - I think he will make one of the best cues available.
JMHO

TY & GL
 
O.H.B. IS BACK!!!!!!! Man, I thought you were gone for good! :D Oh yeah, Andy get's my vote too, even though I have never hit one of his cues. Just been hearing nothing but great things about his work.
 
hyper-cues... JK! Has anyone seen these metal cues??? They had a booth at the BCA show... very strange fish indeed

Tonkin Cues
Hill's Cues
Coker (not new, but damn nice point work!)
 
OldHasBeen said:
Jim is very well known and respected for his current cues and knowledge - BUT - He is still working 40 hours per week at his engineering profession.
When he finally retires and starts making cues FULL TIME - I think he will make one of the best cues available.
JMHO

TY & GL
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I agree, he does flawless work at a great price.
 
Imo..

I think Shurtz cues will become more well known. Although
pretty popular throughout Ks, Ok, Tx, Mo., Co, I think the
word will spread more to other states. Bob Owen, father
of Gabe, worked in Engineering and Computer areas for
many years before becoming a cuemaker. His work just
is getting better and better. Jack Shurtz, his partner,
mostly recovers tables throughout the whole midwest for
many billiard rooms. Jack Shurtz first learned cuemaking
from Verl Horn in Oklahoma. Shurtz cues, IMO, are a
somewhat hidden bargain, hitting as good or better than
cuemakers rated higher on the scale. They are here to
stay, having a well equiped shop, with 4 full sized tables
upfront for playing. (1 pocket mostly - hold ongoing
tournaments). You don't find Shurtz cues being sold
second hand, and if you do, it is usually a Sneaky Pete.
 
Fred Agnir said:
That could be right, but I doubt this forum has enough clout to sway the true collectors.

I have no clue who he is. And really, I'm shocked that he would be considered for an answer. Sounds awful, but there are so many other names.


Fred
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Fred

You do features on cuemakers for "Inside Pool". How do you select the cuemaker for this? The articles give a lot of exposure to the cuemaker and I would think more demand for those cues.
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
Anyone care to guess 10 year from now what Unknown, or Little Know Custom Cuemakers Cues will have Appreciated the Most, be the Most in Demand, or be the Cue people will be saying. I wish had had bought one of those when they were only_ _ _ _, and now there is a -_ _ Year wait to get one, and the price is Sky High.

I am talking about Beauty, Art, Hit, and all the Qualities that make a GREAT CUE....

;)
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Frankly I'm not a cue building expert but if you asked me who I'd ask to make me a cue (choosing someone relatively unknown) - I'd have to opt for Murray Tucker.
 
TheBook said:
Fred

You do features on cuemakers for "Inside Pool". How do you select the cuemaker for this? The articles give a lot of exposure to the cuemaker and I would think more demand for those cues.
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Although the magazine will sometimes (not often at all) request that I do an article on such and such, the rest are ones that I just think would be interesting. I try to mix it up with geographical areas, number of cues, length of time in the busines, and style of cues. Because of this, doing one cuemaker one month forces me to stay away from similar cuemakers other months. E.g., Paul Fanelli's butterfly cues was such a good one to do, but that sort of keeps me from doing a Miltonio or Barrenbrugge Cues for a while.

For anyone interested,

September 2005 will feature Chris Nitti.

October 2005, I've completely turned things upside down, as the article will be on Jack Justis, coincidentally.

I'm currently working on November 2005, and want to go international.

Fred
 
Fred Agnir said:
I'm currently working on November 2005, and want to go international.

Fred
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Viattorre out of the Philippines would be a good choice.

There are a couple of members including myself who can vouch for the quality of their work and the playability of their cues.

I got to see jaz's cue at the Turning Stone as we compared and his is absolutely stunning as well.

Just throwing it out there,
Koop
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
Anyone care to guess 10 year from now what Unknown, or Little Know Custom Cuemakers Cues will have Appreciated the Most, be the Most in Demand, or be the Cue people will be saying. I wish had had bought one of those when they were only_ _ _ _, and now there is a -_ _ Year wait to get one, and the price is Sky High.

I am talking about Beauty, Art, Hit, and all the Qualities that make a GREAT CUE....

;)
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Bruce, 2 words come to mind......ANDY GILBERT.
 
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