What would you do here?

I would shoout the 8 into the back half of the 1 ball, sending the 1 ball to the side rail around the 1st diamond, taking away the 1-9 combo. If they get out from there, good for them. You have a 2 game lead in a race to three, and are shooting well, make them beat you.

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There are two ways you can go about kicking this. Neither I like.

The first depends heavily on the exact location of the cueball. If it works, you look like a genius. If it doesn't, you smack right into the 8-ball and you might as well rack the balls.

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The second is a tip of left, firm stroke. Very difficult to judge (IMO). I'm not loving this either.

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Of course, your third option is to just blast the 8 into the 1 and let him try and run out. If it's against a mediocre player, that might be your best play.
 
Obviously you hit the 8 into the 1 - 9. You have some control over the leave, but it's rough with only top spin available, and it being a 3 ball combo. Hit it easy and try to make the 9, and try to keep the 1 tight with the 8? Or hit it harder, intent is to not leave a hanging 9, and get the 1 ball far away from the 9?

Tough call Neil, but I see it as one or the other. Interested to read other's thoughts.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Of course, your third option is to just blast the 8 into the 1 and let him try and run out. If it's against a mediocre player, that might be your best play.

usually, Im taking a version of the above.

If Im up 2-0 shooting lights out I might feel heroic. Great time to go into my bag of tricks.

Shoot extreme high english with the cue jacked uphitting top rail and jumping over the 8 to hit the 1 clean.

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Beware_of_Dawg said:
usually, Im taking a version of the above.

If Im up 2-0 shooting lights out I might feel heroic. Great time to go into my bag of tricks.

Shoot extreme high english with the cue jacked uphitting top rail and jumping over the 8 to hit the 1 clean.

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He said "no jump". I took that to mean no jumping but maybe it meant no jump cues? If you can jump, there's a fourth option.
 
I agree with hitting the 8 into the 1. If you try the kick and miss he has the easy combo. Give him ball in hand and make him beat the ghost.
 
Oh, fifth option:

Take a REALLY long time thinking about what to do. When your opponent grabs their water/beer/cool aid, just move the 8-ball out of the way and proceed to shoot the combination. :thumbup:
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
He said "no jump". I took that to mean no jumping but maybe it meant no jump cues? If you can jump, there's a fourth option.

Hmmm.... Thats interesting, does using a rail assisted jump fall under those same rules? I mean your not hoping directly over the ball your actually not jumping the cue ball your hitting a rail and the rail is popping the ball up off the surface and over the 8... I wonder where that would fall in these rules.... Neil ? would you get called for that?
 
I would certainly just shoot the eight into the one to remove the combination. I would do this with any player especially against a lower lever player.

P.S. Is the other A player still in the tourny? Ha Ha
 
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Beware_of_Dawg said:
Hmmm.... Thats interesting, does using a rail assisted jump fall under those same rules? I mean your not hoping directly over the ball your actually not jumping the cue ball your hitting a rail and the rail is popping the ball up off the surface and over the 8... I wonder where that would fall in these rules.... Neil ? would you get called for that?


your good if you can do it 1/4" away from the rail
 
soulcatcher said:
I would shoout the 8 into the back half of the 1 ball, sending the 1 ball to the side rail around the 1st diamond, taking away the 1-9 combo. If they get out from there, good for them. You have a 2 game lead in a race to three, and are shooting well, make them beat you.

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Yeah, not willing to give up the game with the tough kick, just bump the 1 away from the combo...
 
Neil said:
...I did go for the shot 'out of the box', but I put 110% effort into it.

Hint, hint.... I felt really good about the results of my shot, and at the same time, felt a little bad about it. I did win the game on my shot.[/QUOTE]

I want video or I'm calling bullhockey! I just don't see how you can legally pot the 9 on this shot.
 
poolfire said:
your good if you can do it 1/4" away from the rail

true 1/4 might not be quite enough and if the demensions of his diagram are correct it appears the 8 is closer to the CB than the rail, so at 1/4 inch from the rail and 1/8 inch from the 8 your pretty much jammed up.. If you give me a full inch to the rail I think the rail jump is very do-able. (in hero mode) otherwise the 8-1-9 sellout is the way to go (for me).
 
KoolKat9Lives said:
I just don't see how you can legally pot the 9 on this shot.

Maybe a ruthless Masse shot around the 8 into the 1-9 ??

*edit* Jude beat me to that guess.
 
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Neil said:
I knew the hint would give it away.;) I have pulled off great masse shots in the past, and I can still see them like I just did them. Some shots you just never forget. I hadn't pulled one off in years though, and figured this was a good time to attempt it. If I don't make it, or get the hit, he wins. Score 2-1 me, and it would be my break. This gives him a chance, but I'm really trying on it. I looked at it, and knew I HAD to hit the back side of the 1. If I hit the front side, odds are he still gets the combo. I aimed it up, and pulled it off!:grin-square: Now I have another shot I will always remember! (And yes, I really do wish it was on video!) The reason I felt bad was because most in the tournament saw it, and now really knew they were outgunned. oops.:embarrassed2:


And, yes, this does sound like bragging, but that's only because I am!:p This shot deserves some bragging!:smile:

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Nice shot Neil. I thought about the masse, but then I thought only someone like Mike Massey could pull it off.:D
 
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