What would you do here?

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Neil

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I ws at the poolroom last night watching the league players warm up. A 6 was showing a 4 how to play 8 ball. The 4 was a good shot maker, but knew nothing about english or position. It was the 4's turn, he has solids. The 6 level player told him what to shoot and why. Needless to say, my eyebrows raised a bit when the 4 pulled it off, what do you think he did?? And, what would you do?? Playing on a diamond barbox.

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too hard to tell the angle off the 6 in the corner. looks like the six to the bottom right corner might play the cue with top to run into the 12. if so, 7 to same pocket as 6, 8 to either of the left corner pockets.
 
Neil said:
I ws at the poolroom last night watching the league players warm up. A 6 was showing a 4 how to play 8 ball. The 4 was a good shot maker, but knew nothing about english or position. It was the 4's turn, he has solids. The 6 level player told him what to shoot and why. Needless to say, my eyebrows raised a bit when the 4 pulled it off, what do you think he did?? And, what would you do?? Playing on a diamond barbox.

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Cut the 6 in the side made the stripe in corner got shape on his last ball and ran out.
 
It's almost a guarantee that no one will guess correctly what he did, but I want to see all the responses before I spill the beans.
 
Thin the 6 and float down soft, to the lower side pocket rail? The 8 ball looks pretty big from that angle, but I dont know if a 4 could pull it off.

If he didnt like that, I might have him try to cut the 6 in the corner, rail first off the 12.
 
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Neil, since you said the 4 knew nothing about english or position, im gonna guess and say the 7 passes the 12 and the 6 told him to shoot the 6 ball in the bottom side pocket with center ball sending the CB to the side rail before the side pocket and up towards the short rail near the 7. (two rail "Z" shape)

I see a couple possible ways to shoot this other than that.

you could do the same shot except shoot the 6 into the bottom right corner pocket and force follow with spin off the side rail and up.

you may be able to power draw off the six into corner pocket going 3-4 rails onto the 7

you could somehow try to pocket the 6 and attempt to attack the 12 ball, but the CB could get funny on you if you make the 12.

that is all assuming the 7 does pass the 12..diagram doesn't show it well, and it wasn't mentioned.

if it doesn't pass, I might play safe...moving the 6 ball to block the 12 and leaving the CB around the lower side pocket allowing the 8ball to be a blocker if i didn't quite the 6 there.

I can't say what I would do, but those are the options I see.

hell, the low % shot..two rail the 6 upper left corner and float up for the 7.
 
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The 7 does not pass the 12. I wish I had some extra money, I would gladly pay anyone that could guess this one right! All I have is rep, so I will rep anyone that guesses it correctly. Hint- you have to think "out of the box", way, way, way, out of the box! (I'm still shaking my head that the 6 would even tell him to do what he did, let alone the 4 actually pulling it off! I wouldn't have thought it possible. I'm still not so sure it is possible, even after seeing it!
 
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did the 6 tell him to use english, or were these shot with center ball...you said the 4 was a shotmaker with no english/postion abilities.
 
cut the 6 to go in the corner pocket off the 12 to clear the pocket for the 7. The cue will go naturally go cross table towards the bottom rail w/shape on the 7 once the 12 is moved. ?????

Dave
 
As far as I could tell, he didn't use any english on the shot. And, you guys are not thinking far enough out of the box yet. Hint #2- he did not run out, but played a safe, and a good one at that.
 
He shot the 6 into the stripe knocking it over on the other solid and rolling up behind it and hooking him or blocking him from making it anywhere.
 
neil said think outside the box.. like backward cut the 6 to the top side pocket or something crazy like that.
 
Neil, ... I really enjoy your "what would you do here" posts and all the responses from AZers... everytime someone mentions something I wouldn't think of... keep'em coming
 
I'd have to see the angle better but from what i can tell.. shooting the 6 into the corner with a punching follow stroke should knock the 7 out or make the 12 with the cb.. one or the other.

First thing that came to mind after that tho was shooting the 6 into the 12 making the 12 or knocking it out of the hole...
 
Neil said:
(I'm still shaking my head that the 6 would even tell him to do what he did, let alone the 4 actually pulling it off! I wouldn't have thought it possible.
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But.......how many times would he "pull it off" given 100 tries. Anything (to a certain degree of possibility) can be done once. I've seen AND done things that I thought weren't possible.

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Neil said:
It's almost a guarantee that no one will guess correctly what he did, but I want to see all the responses before I spill the beans.
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top english on the 6 ball sending the 6 ball 2 rails into the opposite corner and squeezing 7 past the 12?? :eek:
 
Ok wild goose chase man ;)


Eliminating anything (not yet discussed) remotely conventional:

- I don't see him doing a soft kick (off the low long rail) on the 7, and leaving the 7 as a blocker on the 12
- Nor cross banking the 6
- nor doing some combo with the 6 into the 8
- I can't see a 4 jumping the 4 to hit the 7


Meh... Cut the 6 into the 12, making the 12. The cue stays down below the foot spot. But that's not twilight zone enuf, so ...

Swing batter batter batter, swing! Whiff!




Me thinks Neil likes this too much and probably pulled wings off flies. :grin-square:
 
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