What would you do here?

Well I can see a possible 2 rail kick and 1 rail kick, but I wouldn't be able judge where the cue ball would end up. I would try to roll the 7 as close as I could to the three and let him have ball in hand.
 
You need to get a lucky charm and carry it in your pocket. You get into some of the worst situations I've seen. I would try to go two rails around the 8 ball.
 
I'd unscrew. ;)

The only saving grace is the 3 is stitched up. The kick on the 3 is difficult so why uncluster your saving grace? It doesn't look like if Jason got BIH that he could carom the 6 in off the 3.

The only reliably hittable balls are the 5 and 8 and neither can be easily hit to further "foul" up the rack.

I dunno... Push the 5 on top of the 4 and pray he doesn't 3 foul you?

Alright Houdini, what miracle shot did you pull out of your wazzoo this time? ;)
 
Looks to be the best way is a one rail kick with a bit or reverse to shorten the angle, shoot to the right of the 8. It looks like you can hit the middle diamond from where you are, maybe even a bit more to the left of that. Should be enough for you to shorten the angle enough to hit the 3.

Another thing which may work nicely, the 5 is not a full ball jump, so should not be hard to jump over it to the 3, unless the 7 is also in the way. Some of you may remember, it's possible to jump a ball without using a 3" tall stick with a rock for a tip ;)

I'm going by the exact placement as I see it on the diagram.
 
NewStroke said:
Well I can see a possible 2 rail kick and 1 rail kick, but I wouldn't be able judge where the cue ball would end up. I would try to roll the 7 as close as I could to the three and let him have ball in hand.
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Oo just read that, I like the rolling 7 to the ball also. Although if it was me playing, I'd probbly try for a hit.
 
Neil said:
Sorry, I knew I forgot something. It's 9 ball.:embarrassed2:
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In that case I would kick 3 rails, just missing the 8 ball after 2 rails, with enough spin, you get down to the 3 ball, carom off and make the 6 ball.
 
NewStroke said:
Ah, how about banking the 8 toward the 3?
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I like this option. It might make it a little harder for him to leave you down table. He is going to try to tie you up on his turn, that's a certainty. Second option would be to soft bank the eight to where it blocks the pocket for the five ball. Makes for a harder run out if Jason does get BIH again.
 
Cut the 8 slightly into the short rail and back to block the 5, and give him ball in hand.
 
The three looks like can be hit by bending the cue ball one rail off the foot rail with draw and inside, but the 3 is a small target and the shot is really difficult to predict. Once I determine a kick is hopeless or too risky, which is the case here, I try to mess up the table.

Problem is this table isn't that easy to mess up and BIH gives him the 3-6 billiard - but that alone could be tricky getting position on the 3 afterward.

I might just bank the 8 to the rail and back to nudge up to the 5 ball or bank the 8 to the 3-6 group and hope I mess it up. I kind of like the 8-5 better because it looks like it would be pretty easy to pull off and let him shoot the billiard 3-6 or play safe.

In any case, I would want to give him as difficult an out as possible because he's the favorite to win from here anyway.

Chris
 
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jay helfert said:
I like this option. It might make it a little harder for him to leave you down table. He is going to try to tie you up on his turn, that's a certainty. Second option would be to soft bank the eight to where it blocks the pocket for the five ball. Makes for a harder run out if Jason does get BIH again.
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I was also going to suggest soft banking the 8 to tie up the 5. Give him two clusters to worry about.

What worries me about banking the 8 down to the 3 is that, on Jason's turn, he could roll the 9 up to the cluster and give you nowhere to place the cue ball to play a legal hit.
 
I put this on the bar table version. Is anybody else having problems just clicking on the cuetable to get it to open up?

Anyways, This is what I'd try and hope to end up safe, there's not a lot of hope here.

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Edit: weird, I picked the bartable version off the web site but it still comes up as the regular version after being pasted.
 
Neil said:
Diamond barbox, I'm going to 5, Kirkwood to 7, score is 5-3 Jason. He leaves me this. What would you do?? No jump cues.

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I would try to send the 5-ball near to the 3 and the 6 and see what happens. (directly or as a kick)- then he for sure would have a problem to run out. He is in advantage- no matter what you re playin and i would not try to hit the 3-ball. I would let always *him* try to attack first-and if he s going to play a *new* safety....you have a new chance to do something productive :o)

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Good chance you're going to get three fouled here. You're going to have to make at least one good kick shot.
 
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