What would YOU do here?

fan-tum said:
Need help. I clicked edit on the original post, moved the c.b.,copied, clicked quick reply on orig. post, but the dialog box doesn't have the "wei" button. What do I do after copying my layout?
Underneath the quick reply box is a "go advanced" button. This brings up the full dialog box for posting. The Wei button is there, but not the whole original post you are responding to. It even saves the text you just typed in the quick reply box...

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Since I never actually answered the "what would I do" I will.

It seems some tables jump easier than others...If I was on a easy jumping table (bouncier slate) I would attemp the jump and run out.

If not I would kick the CB off the far end rail and try and catch the lower side of the 1 ball sending it toward the side pocket and the CB toward the group of ballse down by the 2-Ball.

I am going to hit this kick...There is a chance I could make the 1 in the side, If not, it will likely end up along the long rail and the CB down by the group of balls. It has possibilites of leaving a shot on the 1 (anything from striaght in to a tough cut or a bank)

It also has the possibility of pocketing the ball and or getting a lucky safe.

I doub't the odds are much better of winning the rack against a better player no matter what push option I give...They are either going to pocket the ball or play safe (or attempt a two way shot)

With that many balls on the table you have a fairly good chance to get lucky on the safe...(I see it happen quite often)..It also has a chance of putting them "On Tilt" when you do end up with the lucky safe...

What it does do is take away the "option" for my opponent to give the shot back to me.

Probably not what the text book says to do...but that is what I would do.
 
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BRKNRUN said:
Since I never actually answered the "what would I do" I will.

It seems some tables jump easier than others...If I was on a easy jumping table (bouncier slate) I would attemp the jump and run out.

If not I would kick the CB off the far end rail and try and catch the lower side of the 1 ball sending it toward the side pocket and the CB toward the group of ballse down by the 2-Ball.

I am going to hit this kick...There is a chance I could make the 1 in the side, If not, it will likely end up along the long rail and the CB down by the group of balls. It has possibilites of leaving a shot on the 1 (anything from striaght in to a tough cut or a bank)

It also has the possibility of pocketing the ball and or getting a lucky safe.

I doub't the odds are much better of winning the rack against a better player no matter what push option I give...They are either going to pocket the ball or play safe (or attempt a two way shot)

With that many balls on the table you have a fairly good chance to get lucky on the safe...(I see it happen quite often)..It also has a chance of putting them "On Tilt" when you do end up with the lucky safe...

What it does do is take away the "option" for my opponent to give the shot back to me.

Probably not what the text book says to do...but that is what I would do.


I do agree with your style. I would do the same thing if I felt comfortable with the kick. Pushing is usually a losing proposition since your opponent either KNOWS to take the shot or KNOWS to give it back. Rarely is he confused on what to do (the ultimate push). By kicking, you force him to play (assuming you don't make a ball). However, I can't say I would be quick to kick here. I don't know, the kick doesn't look like much fun.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:

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First, I wanna say I really hate pushing. It's inherently a disadvantage since your opponent has choice but unfortunately, trying a jump shot here is a sell-out so pushing is your only option.

I would push to the location I show above. My reasoning is simple. I'm leaving him very long and tough. Any safety or shot made here will be earned. I thought about playing with the location of the 2-ball but I'm afraid I won't be able to tie anything up effectively so I figured it's not worth the risk.

When I looked at the diagram, I thought-- push as close to the first diamond on the short rail to the right -- trying to kiss to the rail... and then I see Jude posted his reply.

What Jude said.
 
don't encourage a return safety..(?)

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I like my opponent to shoot at a hard shot, rather than play a safety which I might regret.
 
dabarbr said:
I think this push invites your opponent to take what looks to me like a free shot at the one with possible position on the two. Missing the one for him would may not be critical because of the three that will cut off the possible bank that he might leave on the one.

Pushing to that spot on the short rail like you suggest is fine but I would first relocate the two to insure that my opponent would not be tempted to try to make the one.

I agree with Frank on this one, although Jude's isn't bad.
 
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