What would YOU do?

Snapshot9

Snapshot9

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3 guys from out of town show up at your Pool room. They drink and have a good time for a couple of days, joking around, getting to know some regulars there, and scoping out the Pool action. A couple of them play some regulars for $50 and $100 sets, losing some and winning some.

You are a serious player, and play for some cash. One of the guys approaches you and wants to match you up with his friend, who you have watched shoot for about 10-15 minutes. He mentions that they want to make it worthwhile,and you finally agree on $500 a set, 3 sets guaranteed, race to 15, with a 3rd party holding the money, and you come to an agreement who should hold the money, which is a local truasted person who works in the Pool room.

You go to a private table to play. The player and his 2 friends are there, and 2 friends of yours come over to watch. You play the first set, and you come out on top, 15-12.

You go to tell the person holding the money that you won, and your opponent comes too, thinking he is going to post another $500 for the second set. You tell the person holding the money you won, and your opponent says, "No, he didn't, I did".

An argument ensues, and his 2 friends back him up, and your 2 friends back you up. The 3rd party knows you pretty well, but doesn't know what to believe. You are flabbergasted this guy would pull something like that.

Now what? What would you do?
 
Well I'd hope the guy holding the money would trust you over an out-of-towner, and that the regulars there would stick up for you, making it pretty tough for those three guys to do anything.
 
I like the "butt of the cue to the head" response.

Or, I would look at the guy, offer him his money back, and kindly recommend that he and his friends leave town before something very, very unfortunate happens to them.
 
I'd also let him have the money, but only what he posted so that he only gets what he put in. Then kindly escort him out of the establishment while making it very clear that your kinds actions are very likely saving his life. The butt of the cue is to be used only if and when he and his buddies have the nerve to show up again.
dave
 
I would probably start by b@tch slapping the one holding the money for not watching with his own eyes. Isn't that his job?
 
Snapshot9 said:
3 guys from out of town show up at your Pool room. They drink and have a good time for a couple of days, joking around, getting to know some regulars there, and scoping out the Pool action. A couple of them play some regulars for $50 and $100 sets, losing some and winning some.

You are a serious player, and play for some cash. One of the guys approaches you and wants to match you up with his friend, who you have watched shoot for about 10-15 minutes. He mentions that they want to make it worthwhile,and you finally agree on $500 a set, 3 sets guaranteed, race to 15, with a 3rd party holding the money, and you come to an agreement who should hold the money, which is a local truasted person who works in the Pool room.

You go to a private table to play. The player and his 2 friends are there, and 2 friends of yours come over to watch. You play the first set, and you come out on top, 15-12.

You go to tell the person holding the money that you won, and your opponent comes too, thinking he is going to post another $500 for the second set. You tell the person holding the money you won, and your opponent says, "No, he didn't, I did".

An argument ensues, and his 2 friends back him up, and your 2 friends back you up. The 3rd party knows you pretty well, but doesn't know what to believe. You are flabbergasted this guy would pull something like that.

Now what? What would you do?
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Have all 6 guys, one by one and in private, tell the money man how the last two games were won (by either player). Have them describe anything distinctive at all, such as general position of the 9 and cueball.

It's entirely possible that all 3 of the bad guys will have the foresight to know that they should simply reverse the players. This way they can mostly tell the truth when they describe positions. But my guess is that anyone dumb enough to try pulling off this stunt will start hemming and hawwing when asked specific questions. And all of your guys will have very quick and direct answers.

There's no harm in trying it, anyway, because the worst that will happen is they collude correctly and you're back at square one.

- Steve
 
pharaoh68 said:
Or, I would look at the guy, offer him his money back, and kindly recommend that he and his friends leave town before something very, very unfortunate happens to them.
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Yeah, I think since it's your pool room, something like "You know damn well who won that set" in a calm tone with a cold stare should get the message across. If he can keep claiming he won with a straight face, the guy holding the money has no choice but to split it back up, there should be no second or third sets, and you should be able to make sure he can't get a game with anyone else in town either. Should get him out of there, and he can be some other pool room's problem.

-Andrew
 
Steve Lipsky said:
Have all 6 guys, one by one and in private, tell the money man how the last two games were won (by either player). Have them describe anything distinctive at all, such as general position of the 9 and cueball.

It's entirely possible that all 3 of the bad guys will have the foresight to know that they should simply reverse the players. This way they can mostly tell the truth when they describe positions. But my guess is that anyone dumb enough to try pulling off this stunt will start hemming and hawwing when asked specific questions. And all of your guys will have very quick and direct answers.

There's no harm in trying it, anyway, because the worst that will happen is they collude correctly and you're back at square one.
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That is a great idea.
 
That guy wouldn't get near the door with my money.

This may sound a bit preachy, but this is the point in time where all the time you've spent earning respect from your peers in the poolroom comes to fruition. I don't mean with your play, I mean how you carry yourself and how you've treated others. Common sense dictates that your poolroom friends will be inclined to side with you, provided you don't give them a reason not to. ;)

Assuming the guy holding the cash knew you, why didn't he just take your word?
 
Andrew Manning said:
Yeah, I think since it's your pool room, something like "You know damn well who won that set" in a calm tone with a cold stare should get the message across. If he can keep claiming he won with a straight face, the guy holding the money has no choice but to split it back up, there should be no second or third sets, and you should be able to make sure he can't get a game with anyone else in town either. Should get him out of there, and he can be some other pool room's problem.

-Andrew
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Steve Lipsky said:
Have all 6 guys, one by one and in private, tell the money man how the last two games were won (by either player). Have them describe anything distinctive at all, such as general position of the 9 and cueball.

It's entirely possible that all 3 of the bad guys will have the foresight to know that they should simply reverse the players. This way they can mostly tell the truth when they describe positions. But my guess is that anyone dumb enough to try pulling off this stunt will start hemming and hawwing when asked specific questions. And all of your guys will have very quick and direct answers.

There's no harm in trying it, anyway, because the worst that will happen is they collude correctly and you're back at square one.

- Steve
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Very sensible solution.

Anyone figured out who really killed Laura Palmer?
 
No ....

This did not actually happen (Well, it may have somewhere), I just wanted to
see what solutions were offered in a scam (hustle) situation that may sound far out, but stranger things have been known to happen (remember Boston?).

I believe Steve Lipsky provided the best answer, with backup to
Andrew Manning.

Perhaps posing situations like this is not a bad idea, and some players new to gambling can learn how to handle anomalies like this should they ever come up.

P.S. The person holding the money was an employee of the Pool room, and had to continue with his duties while the match was being played, and put the money into the safe in the Pool room.

Thanks to everyone for their insights.
 
Lesson learned, have a designated score keeper, have both players initial each mark on the board or paper. Damn shame though, ya shouldn't have to do this even hypothetically.
 
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