What's the best cleaner to use on Simonis 860 to remove stains??

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thubosky

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Hi,

I recently went to clean my table and I used my almost brand new vacuum cleaner on it to clean it up a little. I don't know if something was on the wheels or if the brushes went so fast and burned little marks in it, but now there is a few black tiny marks on the cloth. And I used carpet cleaner to try and get it out and that stuff left big water mark stains :( any help?? Ill try and upload a picture.
Thanks,
Tim
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There is a view I the bigger stains, if you can look you can see the little black marks. Even if I get rid of the big stains now ill be happy. It's 860 Simonis cloth.
 
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I am no expert but I wouls top using any kind of product, cleaner... Use water. Bissel little green clean machine would get those stain rings out using nothing more than warm water. It sprays and vacuums at the same time so it shouldn't saturate the cloth or get any water into the table itself. It will get wet but not much you can do about that. Should dry overnight and be gone. No more cleaners their residue is the death of cloth and carpet.
 
A little bit wool lite in warm water scrub it and pull as much water back out with a microfiber cloth, or with a wet-dry vac.
 
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Tony_in_MD said:
A little bit wool lite in warm water scrub it and pull as much water back out with a microfiber cloth, or with a wet-dry vac.
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^^This works. Those in red are the operative words.^^

You may also try lightly-dampening a clean cloth with tonic water. Then lightly wipe with warm water followed by a damping-up with a dry microfiber cloth. Clean spills immediately (if at all possible).

You may have to scrub "a bit" as Tony has suggested; however, not to vigorously as felt responds poorly to hard rubbing; it shifts its shape, fluffs up, and it never looks the same again – don't do it! Scrub "lightly" and repeat if necessary.

Hope this helps!
 
I've had success using Brakleen (green can) which can be found at almost all auto parts stores. It is very similar in nature to chemicals used in dry cleaning. It dries VERY fast and doesn't leave a residue. The method I've used is to spray some on a micro fiber towel and gently scrub the stained areas and follow it up with a vacuum. This should work.
 
I use blue coral foaming apolstry cleaner......

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http://www.simoniscloth.com/installation/cloth-care-maintenance

"The cloth can also be wiped with a damp (not wet) clean towel. This should only be done after the table has been vacuumed otherwise the dampness may cause the chalk dust to clump together (think of it as adding water to dry clay). Once the dampness has evaporated, a quick brushing is all you will need before playing as moisture will cause the fibers in the cloth to stand up and a quick brushing will smooth things out.

"Stains on the cloth? Contact your local Dry Cleaners as they have some pretty interesting and effective techniques to resolve these incidents. Remember, Simonis is a worsted wool, so be sure to mention that fact."
 
To the OP.

You should never use a vacuum cleaner that has a beater bar on the pool table.

I have a hose attachment with a flat small flooring nozzle that I use. The actual machine never touches my table top.

I only vacuum my table when it is excessively dirty. Most cleaning can be done with a brush, and a slightly damp (not wet) microfiber cloth. Wiping down the cloth with a damp microfiber cloth does wonders.

I am sorry you learned this lesson the hard way. Hoping that these spots come out.
 
I've heard vacuuming is bad for the cloth, that it pulls small particles of chalk that are resting between the cloth and the bed of the table back up into the felt in small holes in the pattern of the cloth etc.

I've been neglectful in cleaning my table since I got it, but hasn't been that much play yet so not horrible. I have a small $30 wet-dry vac (that some people mentioned), tons of microfiber towels, a traditional pool brush, and a can of Chalk-off.

I'm not sure what to do first, in what order, or how often. Also have a small water/gatorade/soda stain on the cloth -damn kids - not very prominent but thinking of not even trying to mess with it for now, unless there is a sure fire way of removing without making it worse. Tips above might work if it keeps bugging me.


Saw the Simonis website, but what's the best method of keeping cloth clean? Can I just brush and use a slightly damp cloth weekly or every so many hours of play? Does vacuuming actually help or hurt? Is Chalk-off any good (simulating the damp cloth I would suspect)? And, brush or vacuum before wiping, after, ???

Thanks,
Scott
 
Thanks for the ideas, ill give them a go. And I have a bunch of white marks on the cloth already and the cloth is only 3-4 months old. I helped the table mechanic pull it tight when he installed it. Any suggestions to get rid of them also? Will the damp cloth so the trick?
 
thubosky said:
Thanks for the ideas, ill give them a go. And I have a bunch of white marks on the cloth already and the cloth is only 3-4 months old. I helped the table mechanic pull it tight when he installed it. Any suggestions to get rid of them also? Will the damp cloth so the trick?
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The white marks are burn marks form the balls. You will not be able to remove those.
 
rexus31 said:
I've had success using Brakleen (green can) which can be found at almost all auto parts stores. It is very similar in nature to chemicals used in dry cleaning. It dries VERY fast and doesn't leave a residue. The method I've used is to spray some on a micro fiber towel and gently scrub the stained areas and follow it up with a vacuum. This should work.
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Although this stuff is the worlds best degreaser, its also very toxic + carcinogenic. (1-1-1 trichloroethane)

I have not tried this on billiard cloth but it is my favorite degreaser. It will take the fat right out of your hands. WEAR CHEM RESISTANT GLOVES and Open the Windows. Its so good because its so bad.

If you go down this road make sure its the chem mentioned and not some GP degreaser, unless you like a lot of slide on the table and a darker colored cloth.
 
3kushn said:
Although this stuff is the worlds best degreaser, its also very toxic + carcinogenic. (1-1-1 trichloroethane)

I have not tried this on billiard cloth but it is my favorite degreaser. It will take the fat right out of your hands. WEAR CHEM RESISTANT GLOVES and Open the Windows. Its so good because its so bad.

If you go down this road make sure its the chem mentioned and not some GP degreaser, unless you like a lot of slide on the table and a darker colored cloth.
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Is is a bit on the toxic side but not too bad. It is a good recommendation to wear glove, but IMO they aren't necessary. I've used it for many applications without gloves and it doesn't burn your skin or anything, it just dries it up a bit. You definitely don't want to get this stuff in your eyes. The trick is to not drench the cloth with it. Even if you do, it evaporates quickly and doesn't leave any residue on the cloth. I recommend treating the stained areas first, then do the rest of the table as the stained areas will be cleaner than the rest of the table. A little on a microfiber towel goes a long way. And you are correct, don't use a general purpose degreaser. Use Brakleen brand in the green can. There is a difference.
 
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