whats the best way to change a tip?

Zims Rack said:
Every computer and Windows system I've viewed (as well as many others), there is not a problem with the "red Pre-Owned Items" link overlapping the "Links" link. I never said that I charge $10, only commenting on a previous price mentioned. I work out of my private home, I don't give my street address for security reasons. I do give a city, phone, name, email, and background info on my website. If someone can't pick up a phone or email me to get my address, then that's their choice. I don't pocket any money from repairs, 100% of it goes back into supplies. It is something that I love to do and do it when time permits. I do post prices of the repairs I offer!
think you may have hit a spot for many people with this comment about the Government! You have the right and freedom to build your cues in your shop because of the men and women in the "Government" that have put their lives on the line for this great USofA and for people like you that don't appreciate them. I, along with ALL Military members, work our asses off and have made more sacrifices than most any man or woman ever will in their entire life.
I apologize to you Mr. Arnot Wadsworth, I didn't realize that when you first touched a lathe you created the PERFECT cue and have always been the almighty knowing cuemaker!! Even you had to start somewhere! I never claimed to be a great cuemaker, I simply commented about putting tips on cues. I have plenty of satisfied customers of all kind.
I have no idea why you decided to jump down my throat today! Did you wake up on the wrong side of the workbench?

Zim
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Little boy - I am a vietnam Vet so don't give me any of your crap about sacfifice. I earned the right to build cues in America before you were born! Real men don't play the "I made the sacrifice card".
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
Little boy - I am a vietnam Vet so don't give me any of your crap about sacfifice. I earned the right to build cues in America before you were born! Real men don't play the "I made the sacrifice card".
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Just as real VETS don't speak negatively about our Armed Forces men and women! Thank you for serving our country in a time of need! I feel sorry for you Mr Wadsworth, you seem so bitter about things!
Grab a Coke, smile and thank the Man upstairs that you're here on this Earth today, building cues and sharing your vast knowledge!

God Bless the VETS!
Zim
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
Little boy - I am a vietnam Vet so don't give me any of your crap about sacfifice. I earned the right to build cues in America before you were born! Real men don't play the "I made the sacrifice card".
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You really add to the rational exchange on this forum.

Please keep up the good work...

-Roger
 
Resolution

I think the only way to resolve this is to have a foot race. Or a tip race. Can a tip actually be done in 10 minutes without the help of migrant labor and/or the creation of a storefront? In all fairness, we have at least two issues- how can this player get a new tip and the plight of the cuemaker who wants to make a fair sum for doing his craft.

I am going to offer my solution- ship your shaft to someone and ask them to do it. Mighty unpleasant, but you said that paying more was not an issue.


This is not an invitation to flame.
 
ive seen da blud do a tip in under 2 minutes, and hes no amatuer. the man is an artist :) i think mr wadsworth needs to take some geratol and go to bed.
 
This thread really took on a bad tone and I am not going to respond to anyone who tries to get me into an argument. But I have worked tournaments where you take the cue in hand talk for one minute, take three or four minutes to do the tip and one minute to get the cash and hand the customer the cue. Average ten to twelve tips an hour. More if you have a helper. But I have also been in my shop and wasted an hour doing one tip. Arnot is right about it taking longer than five minutes if the customer comes to your shop. Here is why. The customer comes in and talks and so on and then you take a few minutes to do the tip, then he hangs around and chats a while and you lose a lot of work. I hate to have very many customers come to my shop as the chat time added on to the tip job usually costs me two or three times what I made on the tip in lost work. Makes me glad I live over an hour out of the big city. Not many make the drive for just a tip.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
cueman said:
This thread really took on a bad tone and I am not going to respond to anyone who tries to get me into an argument. But I have worked tournaments where you take the cue in hand talk for one minute, take three or four minutes to do the tip and one minute to get the cash and hand the customer the cue. Average ten to twelve tips an hour. More if you have a helper. But I have also been in my shop and wasted an hour doing one tip. Arnot is right about it taking longer than five minutes if the customer comes to your shop. Here is why. The customer comes in and talks and so on and then you take a few minutes to do the tip, then he hangs around and chats a while and you lose a lot of work. I hate to have very many customers come to my shop as the chat time added on to the tip job usually costs me two or three times what I made on the tip in lost work. Makes me glad I live over an hour out of the big city. Not many make the drive for just a tip.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
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Chris,

Can I come to your shop?? I need a new tip!! LOL j/k couldnt resist!!
 
Chris I know what you mean by time contraints of visiting customers. My shop is off the beaten path also which tends to cut down on that as well. But I do get a lot of extra business when people stop by because you always get the "while I'm here I might as well have you do this too" thing. I also get a few extra cue sales/orders because there's usually a unique piece of wood or two hanging around somewhere that the person has never seen before and wants a cue made out of it. It's just good PR sometimes to take the extra time but efficiency and customer service sometimes don't go hand in hand.

Mark Bear
 
lukeinva said:
Chris,

Can I come to your shop?? I need a new tip!! LOL j/k couldnt resist!!
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Sure, any old time you want to drive down to Georgia from Virginia for a tip come on down.
 
I actually did stop by Chris's about a year ago. I was returning to IL from a trip to FL and thought we'd stop by and meet Chris. It was a short visit (didn't want to keep him from his work), but a good one! Chris showed me around his shop, some of his equipment, some lathes he was building and of course I spent a few dollars on supplies. Chris is very knowledgeable, friendly and loves his job.
I recommend to anyone that will be in his area, contact Chris to see if it's okay to stop by. You wont regreat your time with him.

Thanks Chris,
Zim
 
Fullsplice said:
Chris I know what you mean by time contraints of visiting customers. My shop is off the beaten path also which tends to cut down on that as well. But I do get a lot of extra business when people stop by because you always get the "while I'm here I might as well have you do this too" thing. I also get a few extra cue sales/orders because there's usually a unique piece of wood or two hanging around somewhere that the person has never seen before and wants a cue made out of it. It's just good PR sometimes to take the extra time but efficiency and customer service sometimes don't go hand in hand.

Mark Bear
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I have to agree with you about the extra business created when they come. I still do repairs for people but prefer to take it with me from the pool room and bring it back. If I was not in the lathe business I would mind less for people coming by. But knowing what I can make maching parts and assembling lathes and already having nearly all I can do makes the in shop customer that only wants one tip unprofitable. There is a top junior player in our area that gets me to do his work and he almost always brings three or four of his friends cues to work on when he comes. That works out pretty good. I was only trying to show Arnot had a legitimate point about not really making $10 in 5 minutes. I know I am the one who originally said "$10 for five minutes work". You do make $10 for 5 minutes work, but he is also right also about it often taking 20 minutes extra for all the other stuff involved. It goes the same way with my phone business. Sometimes it takes five minutes to make a $3000 lathe sale. But other times it takes 30 minutes to make a $10 small parts order. It all goes with the territory. I guess this all explains why very few cuemakers are rich.
Chris
www.internationalcuemakers.com
www.hightowercues.com
 
Used Willard Retipping Machine

I am definitely interested in purchasing a used Willard Retipping machine as long as it is in excellent shape. Please email me for further discussion.

If anyone has one of these devices for sale, then I'd certainly be interested in purchasing it.

thanks,
T
 
JOEY said:
ive seen da blud do a tip in under 2 minutes, and hes no amatuer. the man is an artist :) i think mr wadsworth needs to take some geratol and go to bed.
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You win. I quit.
 
Wow, how did this whole thread get so far out of hand?

I really wasn't paying attention to the thread because I don't want to know who to change a tip. I always take my cue to a professional to do that sort of thing. I won't say how long he takes though.

Mike
 
kokopuffs said:
I am definitely interested in purchasing a used Willard Retipping machine as long as it is in excellent shape. Please email me for further discussion.

If anyone has one of these devices for sale, then I'd certainly be interested in purchasing it.

thanks,
T
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You should just buy one from muellers or better yet get chris' smallest lathe I think they start out at $800. you will be able to do alot more work with it than just install tips!!
 
scottycoyote said:
how do you get an old tip off the cue? I dont wanna mess up the ferrule, then i just sand it smooth and sand the tip and put it on? Whats you guys opinion on those pads they make that goes between the tip and the ferrule? where do i get them?
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Best way to change a tip is have some one esle do it. lol if the tip wares down I just buy or trade for a new cue .
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
Don't tell me who I am talking to or what I am saying. You said that garbage - not me.

I said: By the time I deal with the customer, center the shaft in the lathe, face the ferrule, prepare the tip by removing the varnish from the back of the tip, apply glue to the ferrule, clamp the tip and allow it to cure for a few minutes, dress the edges of the tip, shape the tip, remove it from the lathe and deal with the customer again, I havn't seen 5 minutes for about 20 minutes.

I have seen an example of your precision work on your web page: Your red "Pre-Owned Items" is placed on top of "Links" - Maybe that is how you are able to do a tip so fast. Also you are supposedly in the cue repair business but I don't see any prices. Are you afraid for your customers to see what you charge? Where are those $10.00 tips you make so much money on. Your other post indicates that you charge $15.00 each. If you are so fast why don't you stop overcharging your customers? Also I don't see any address to ship anything to. What kind of professional business doesn't have an address. Also if you are making so much money on tips why don't you quit your day job and do like the other professional cuemakers and repair persons and live off your cue work? Maybe living off the Government is easier than working for a living.

I will tell you what I think - I think you are an amateur salesman/dealer who makes money by selling real cuemakers creations. This forum's name is Ask the Cuemaker. You ain't one. When you become and have about 5 years under your belt then your opinion will be worth .01. After 10 years it will be worth more.

There is plenty of room to rebut anything you post.

My .02 cents worth.
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My local cue guy does tips lepro triangle elk's for $6.00 and does a great job he also does tailsmans for $10. He ownes the pool hall tip cost what a $1.00 or less for a re tip and 5 bucks for a layered tip like a tailsman and 10 bucks for a moori. so he makes $5.00 a tip which is fair i think. I think this 20 to 40 dollar tip replacement is bull crap!!!!
 
matthew staton said:
My local cue guy does tips lepro triangle elk's for $6.00 and does a great job he also does tailsmans for $10. He ownes the pool hall tip cost what a $1.00 or less for a re tip and 5 bucks for a layered tip like a tailsman and 10 bucks for a moori. so he makes $5.00 a tip which is fair i think. I think this 20 to 40 dollar tip replacement is bull crap!!!!
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Mooris do cost around $10. Some of them go bad too. Most of the time the repairman eats it. So charging $20 ain't so bad. Most charge $25-30.
 
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