Whats the purpose??

wutang

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Question of curiosity: Why when players rack their own, they brush the head ball backwards? What's the point?

Its not done when players play 1 pocket.

Just trying to figure it out.

Need all the help I can get...lol!!

Wutang
 
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I would surmise that it might put a bit of torque on the ball to help hold it against the other two balls.

Other than that I can't think of anything else.
 
For me, I do this sometimes because the balls will not freeze. Or they were frozen and when the rack is removed the head ball settles mildly forward.

I do this in any game when racking my own.

You can just re-rack and try to get them tight but often times the same settling will occur.

There are many reasons this happens. Different size balls, indentations in the felt from breaking or tapping balls into position.

I have found that many people who discourage this never notice the gaps in racks when they rack their own balls.
 
Use a Magic Rack, no need to brush anything, the balls will stay frozen.

The other night when I could not get the balls to freeze in the Magic Rack, it was because the balls were different sizes. You can't do much about that except to bring your own set.
 
Honestly I think the reason you see guys doing it is because they see other guys doing it who are winning etc. I think truthfully anything it may be doing to the rack is negligible. My dad, who was a racer, used to say if a guy won the pole at Indianapolis after putting a giant silver eagle on the hood all the cars would have them by raceday.
 
Honestly I think the reason you see guys doing it is because they see other guys doing it who are winning etc. I think truthfully anything it may be doing to the rack is negligible. My dad, who was a racer, used to say if a guy won the pole at Indianapolis after putting a giant silver eagle on the hood all the cars would have them by raceday.

I have to agree with you on this. It's never really made sense to me.
 
Depends on who is doing the brushing of the one. Some do it to freeze the 1 to the balls behind it. Others do it to put a slight gap between the wing ball and the ball behind it. That slight gap will make the 9 head towards the pocket. And, or, make the wing ball easier to make.
 
Place I play has Diamond wood racks and sometimes, when trying to rack them tight, the head ball can actually stick to the rack a little, especially in humid conditions. Rotating the head ball back just a bit right before lifting the rack helps to keep it from sticking.
 
Depends on who is doing the brushing of the one. Some do it to freeze the 1 to the balls behind it. Others do it to put a slight gap between the wing ball and the ball behind it. That slight gap will make the 9 head towards the pocket. And, or, make the wing ball easier to make.

This! ^^^^^^^^

Best,
Mike
 
Honestly I think the reason you see guys doing it is because they see other guys doing it who are winning etc. I think truthfully anything it may be doing to the rack is negligible. My dad, who was a racer, used to say if a guy won the pole at Indianapolis after putting a giant silver eagle on the hood all the cars would have them by raceday.

You hit it on the head. This based on the fact that someone was racking for me yesterday and he did it for a solid 30-45 seconds on each time he racked the balls.:thumbup:
 
For me, I do this sometimes because the balls will not freeze. Or they were frozen and when the rack is removed the head ball settles mildly forward.

If the apex ball rolls forward after you remove the rack...leave it there, snuggle the rack up to it and push the rest of the balls forward. The apex ball is trying to tell you "this is where I want to sit." Don't fight with the ball. Problem solved; frozen rack. It drives me nuts when my opponent keeps re-racking and re-racking, trying to find the magic spot...when the ball has already tried to tell him where the magic spot is.

It's the oldest trick in dog training: find out what the dog wants to do, and then train him to do it.
 
If the apex ball rolls forward after you remove the rack...leave it there, snuggle the rack up to it and push the rest of the balls forward. The apex ball is trying to tell you "this is where I want to sit." Don't fight with the ball. Problem solved; frozen rack. It drives me nuts when my opponent keeps re-racking and re-racking, trying to find the magic spot...when the ball has already tried to tell him where the magic spot is.

It's the oldest trick in dog training: find out what the dog wants to do, and then train him to do it.

I understand this but I don't agree because it usually means the ball is rolling into a dent of some sort. If I'm racking and that happens, I pull the rack back and brush the area with my hand, causing friction to bring up the nap a bit. Sometimes this helps, even with a spot on the table, and allows for a fairer rack.
 
Honestly I think the reason you see guys doing it is because they see other guys doing it who are winning etc. I think truthfully anything it may be doing to the rack is negligible. My dad, who was a racer, used to say if a guy won the pole at Indianapolis after putting a giant silver eagle on the hood all the cars would have them by raceday.

^^^^^ I think this to.
I push the rack forward with no tension on the balls and find where the 1 ball wants to sit, then I pull the rack back to the 1 and push the rest of the balls forward, works everytime. Unless like someone mentioned using a Diamond rack, sometimes the 1 ball sticks to the wood rack.
 
It is to create small space in the rack.....in 9 ball it makes the wing ball go a larger percentage of the time.. In 10 ball it make a the 2 balls behind the 1 ball dead to the side pockets.....the gap is only about a match stick....it works try it.
 
It is to create small space in the rack.....in 9 ball it makes the wing ball go a larger percentage of the time.. In 10 ball it make a the 2 balls behind the 1 ball dead to the side pockets.....the gap is only about a match stick....it works try it.

THIS!

PLUS, the continuous rolling of the one ball backwards can also move the wingballs southward, minutely and this can allow for a better tangent line for the breaker to make one of the wing balls in the corner pocket. (9 Ball)

JoeyA
 
It is to create small space in the rack.....in 9 ball it makes the wing ball go a larger percentage of the time.. In 10 ball it make a the 2 balls behind the 1 ball dead to the side pockets.....the gap is only about a match stick....it works try it.

Bingo!
Racking the balls hardly ever requires the hands to be on top of the rack or manipulating a single ball to get the balls to open up well on the break. When its done, its to make the rack open a certain way, ie setting gaps to try and make certain balls in certain pockets. It used to be one of those things that earned the reputation of cheat and bad action, but people seem to be going with the "everybodys doin it" spiel. And ya know, if everybodys doin it, thats a lot of guys doin it. Lot of guys doin it, then only one guy can be the best....... :p
Chuck
 
Quite a few tournaments are making it illegal to move/push the one back. They aren't doing this because the players are just trying to freeze the rack better. Some do it cause they see others doing it and some do it because they are up to something.
 
You guys must play with much better equipment then I am accustomed to in my pool room.

The balls stick to the rack, the balls are different sizes, if the apex ball rolls forward into a dent and you push the rack up to that ball it creates gaps throughout the rest of the rack.

If I find a sweet spot where the balls are cooperating and there is just one micro gap I'm brushing the ball backwards. But that's just me.
 
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