What's your favorite hustle?

Flex said:
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The best double your money hustle:

Find a couple peole to play doubles with you and your partner. Get a bet going for any amount - say $50.00 a game. Now everyone thinks it's $25.00 a person . Your team loses the first game, but instead of paying $25.00 each, each of you pays them $50.00 (i.e., $50 a STICK per game). They'll NEVER say anything, they'll just accept the cash. Well, that's the funny part - they've just accepted the fact that the wager has been doubled. Now you can commence to beating them with every game being worth TWICE as much as you orignally wagered for.

-td <- not my hustle, I just passed it along.
 
LastTwo said:
Flex none of what you mentioned were 'hustles', they are all just cheating at the game. A hustle is usually where you win (or lose) legally to get the cheese, but you were decieving of how you went about doing it.
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I agree, those examples were the intentional use of deceptive tactics that fundamentally change the way the balls play, by means of the intentional application of foreign substances to the balls or chalk so as to make them play crazy. Cheating, pure and simple.

I used the word hustle because the core element of the hustle is deception, or trickery, hiding one's speed so as to take unfair advantage of a sucker, or perhaps someone who's just not paying attention.

How would you qualify the tables gamblers play on that have been fixed to play poorly, say with needles pushed deep into the rails at common areas used for banking? Or making one of the corner pockets a bit tighter than the others? Or making sure one of the facings in a tight corner pocket is somewhat curved? All these things and more can be intentionally set up by who ever redoes the cloth and rails on a table. Is that cheating?

I think it is...

The solution or the way to deal with all these and other "hustles" is to have your wits about you and to be sensitive to balls that don't roll right, tables whose rails are inconsistent and so on.

Is it possible to totally eliminate the hustles I mention? I suppose only in very special circumstances is it doable...

Here's another one that came to mind... How about just switching the game ball from another set of balls? Using a regular Aramith ball instead of a Super Aramith or a Centennial will change the cut angles, no doubt about it. How many players pay attention to that sort of thing? Not many, I bet...

Cheers!

Flex
 
Another attempt at beeting my "viewing" score! Poor sportsmanship InDeed!

Seriously, the guy posting is mental.

"I challenge you to a dual"... Hahahaha

Men without honor...

Please DO NOT CLICK!

Kieth McCready... You're my hero.

::side note:: I saw Steve Harvey's show tonight...



Question: does this post count as a hustle? Moron!
 
Cheaters never prosper.

Live life right. All the right will come to you.

Biggest hustle are the Older folk. They're more wise, they know what you're thinking bacause they already done it. They can spot weaknesses early.

Being a good hustler, you have to have talent on the table, not just in the mind.

Having to cheat (to most people) means you don't have talent. Unless, you apply yourself to the game at hand.

As most here will back me up on this statement: "Earn your way through life, you'll be happier in this way".

This is the last I'll responde to this tread. And, I wish you well OP (means: original poster)

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Flex said:
I agree, those examples were the intentional use of deceptive tactics that fundamentally change the way the balls play, by means of the intentional application of foreign substances to the balls or chalk so as to make them play crazy. Cheating, pure and simple.

I used the word hustle because the core element of the hustle is deception, or trickery, hiding one's speed so as to take unfair advantage of a sucker, or perhaps someone who's just not paying attention.

How would you qualify the tables gamblers play on that have been fixed to play poorly, say with needles pushed deep into the rails at common areas used for banking? Or making one of the corner pockets a bit tighter than the others? Or making sure one of the facings in a tight corner pocket is somewhat curved? All these things and more can be intentionally set up by who ever redoes the cloth and rails on a table. Is that cheating?

I think it is...

The solution or the way to deal with all these and other "hustles" is to have your wits about you and to be sensitive to balls that don't roll right, tables whose rails are inconsistent and so on.

Is it possible to totally eliminate the hustles I mention? I suppose only in very special circumstances is it doable...

Here's another one that came to mind... How about just switching the game ball from another set of balls? Using a regular Aramith ball instead of a Super Aramith or a Centennial will change the cut angles, no doubt about it. How many players pay attention to that sort of thing? Not many, I bet...

Cheers!

Flex
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The problem with all of your posts on this topic is that none of your "hustles" involve the use of actual skill in beating your opponent. It all has to do with attempting to rigging a game in one fashion or another. So they all refer to "cheating" not "hustling".

To me hustling would be for me to go into a bar that you dont normally play at, start banging around a table and getting a little upset about missing some "should be made" shots and waiting for someone to call me out or say something about it and then challenging them to play for money. Start out small and lose a bit... he starts talking shit with his friends then I suggest we play partners for double the money and say I will just grab some girl from the bar to be on my partner. I grab my girlfriend sitting on the end of the bar whom isnt a bad shooter, and then we start playing a little bit better to make sure we come out $$ ahead.

Or the whole proposition of losing some early to make more later... no matter how you do it. While there might be a little bit of deception in hustling... in the end its all about skill and knowing you can beat whom you are playing.

btw I dont play for money and have no intensions to because I know im not good enough lol
 
Ronoh said:
Having to cheat (to most people) means you don't have talent.
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I never thought I would agree with you on something...

Ronoh said:
And, I wish you well OP (means: original poster)
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The purpose of using an abreviation or acronym is to save time and space... when you use an acronym and then have to explain it you are doing neither of the above :p
 
My favorite hustle:
Now that I barely get to play once a week and my game becomes streaky; my opponent will think either think A) he's pretty good so why did he miss that shot or B) this guy sucks and he's just getting lucky, then hopefully by the end of my match I'm in stroke and have won.
I am SOOOO evil
Paul
 
Loun said:
The problem with all of your posts on this topic is that none of your "hustles" involve the use of actual skill in beating your opponent. It all has to do with attempting to rigging a game in one fashion or another. So they all refer to "cheating" not "hustling".
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I guess dictionaries do have a use, at least some of the time they can clear up discrepancies about meaning and usage of terms.

Since there have been some who questioned the propriety of my usage of the term "hustle," I thought I'd check the dictionary to see who might be right, in this instance.

Suffice it to say there is a very long definition and list of usages for the word, and one of them perfectly fits my application here:

"4. Slang. To obtain something by deceitful or illicit means. "

In this case, illicit=cheating.

Best,

Flex
 
If I am playing someone and I find anything on the balls at all, they will get a firm "5 across the eyes" from me....
 
Hustlin 101.......

When you get a chance to play a weaker opponent and you know you got the NUTS play'em a race to 9 for $300 and when you get to the hill 1st start stalling and let them tie the score up at 8-8. Now suggest that you start over and double the bet or at least raise it to $500 then proceed to crush them. This works most of the time when you know the opponent has enough dough and when you know they aren't quitters. Many times the opponent will play a third set for the $500 and it almost guarantees you a 1G score instead of only $300 or $600.

Also, don't forget to pay the table time and buy the looser a drink and remind them on how they almost had you the 1st set.

Mj
 
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DZilla said:
Hustling, cheating...either way you're fucking someone over for their money. :rolleyes:
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Hustlin isn't cheating it's a form of art :-) Chances are when you've been hustled you will never know it and even if you did you should just chalk it up to experience.

Being cheated is a whole different story and leads to many of the bad things that happen in and around pool.

Mj
 
Nope, sorry. I have never been hustled because I have never gambled money other than a few slot machines which was many years ago.
 
My favorite hustle I've seen in the pool room, was not actually billiard related, but here goes.

One of the regulars at my old poolroom came in one day and was talking about his previous day at a Red's Game. He commented on what a great game it had been and how nice the weather was. Then he commented on the crowd. Yeah he said, "There were between fifty and one hundred thousand people at the game. One of the lurkers bit and said "Yeah, Right"! The regular repeated his claim. I'll bet $500 there were between 50 and 100 thousand people at yesterday's game. They put up their money and the regular got out the daily newspaper where they showed the paid attendance of the games in the sports section. IIRC there were something like 18,000 in attendance. The lurker chimed up and said "see I told you, I knew there were no where near 50,000 people at the Red's game"! The regular, took the "up money" and explained that the bet had been clearly won by him. He had emphatically stated there were between 50 and 100,000 people in attendance, no one mentioned 50,000 people. There were more than 50 and less than 100,000 people at the game! Yes, it's a play on words, but correct in content!

just more hot air!

Sherm
 
Ronoh said:
Cheaters never prosper.

Live life right. All the right will come to you.

Biggest hustle are the Older folk. They're more wise, they know what you're thinking bacause they already done it. They can spot weaknesses early.

Being a good hustler, you have to have talent on the table, not just in the mind.

Having to cheat (to most people) means you don't have talent. Unless, you apply yourself to the game at hand.

As most here will back me up on this statement: "Earn your way through life, you'll be happier in this way".

This is the last I'll responde to this tread. And, I wish you well OP (means: original poster)

::edit:: corrected Their for They're
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I'd follow his advice or he'll break your arm!
 
td873 said:
The best double your money hustle:

Find a couple peole to play doubles with you and your partner. Get a bet going for any amount - say $50.00 a game. Now everyone thinks it's $25.00 a person . Your team loses the first game, but instead of paying $25.00 each, each of you pays them $50.00 (i.e., $50 a STICK per game). They'll NEVER say anything, they'll just accept the cash. Well, that's the funny part - they've just accepted the fact that the wager has been doubled. Now you can commence to beating them with every game being worth TWICE as much as you orignally wagered for.

-td <- not my hustle, I just passed it along.
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Forgive me if I've mentioned this one before, but I wanna hear it again. My buddy and I were playing partners for "$1 a game" with some greaseballs a few years ago. We won and they pay us 50 cents each. I asked the guy if he was really gonna stiff us for the other dollar and he just laughed, thinking he got away with it. Oooo, I thought, big-time hustlers...ooooo.

The end of the story was he and his brother ended up with multiple cuts and bruises and I broke a rib. All for a dollar! :( The funniest part was we left the bar in such a hurry (the barkeep called the cops) that we left the dollar behind. Der!

Jeff Livingston
 
Flex, you're dispicable. ( thanks for the tips)

Flex said:
Here's a hustle someone passed along to me... Before playing 8 ball, clean one of the sets, either the stripes or the solids, and leave the other balls as they were... They WILL play differently.

Here's another. Take the game ball, whether it's the 8 or the 9, before the match, and give it a light coating of nose grease...

And a third... be sure to put out chalk at the table that looks quite new, but has been fixed. How do you "fix" chalk? Pour some 7-UP on it and let it dry. That chalk won't play the same as the good stuff...

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Or do like Amos in TCOM and talk about how you have been down on your luck, and your woman left you, you lost your job, you took on strange odd jobs like being a test subject, etc. LOL
 
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