From my experience, Nit and locksmith aren't the same thing.
Locksmith is someone who either plays well or doesn't, but won't gamble with someone unless he is stone cold stealing or feels he has a 1000% chance of winning, and doesn't put himself in risky situations gamewise
A NIT is someone who chirps a lot who rarely gets up there and plays with the people he's barking at. He barks at better players about how they can't beat him when he stinks, and then goes and plays someone his own speed for 5 bucks. The ONLY time they get up there and play is if some idiot believes their story and backs them which is never the SMART backer, but usually a conglomerate of similar NITS pooling their money together.
Nits are the wannabes of pool. They talk high, but bet low as they are never willing to risk their wannabe "REP" on a real game
On thing though, i know of players who are classified as nits soley based on the fact that they play well but don't gamble, despite never chirping at anyone. It's usually by the degenerate gamblers who have no life where the guy who they call a nit, usually has some semblance of responsibility like a mortgage or rent or something serious that prevents them from ever gambling really high, but to the gambing pool players, this is perceived as a flaw, and they throw them in the nit category.
Locksmith is someone who either plays well or doesn't, but won't gamble with someone unless he is stone cold stealing or feels he has a 1000% chance of winning, and doesn't put himself in risky situations gamewise
A NIT is someone who chirps a lot who rarely gets up there and plays with the people he's barking at. He barks at better players about how they can't beat him when he stinks, and then goes and plays someone his own speed for 5 bucks. The ONLY time they get up there and play is if some idiot believes their story and backs them which is never the SMART backer, but usually a conglomerate of similar NITS pooling their money together.
Nits are the wannabes of pool. They talk high, but bet low as they are never willing to risk their wannabe "REP" on a real game
On thing though, i know of players who are classified as nits soley based on the fact that they play well but don't gamble, despite never chirping at anyone. It's usually by the degenerate gamblers who have no life where the guy who they call a nit, usually has some semblance of responsibility like a mortgage or rent or something serious that prevents them from ever gambling really high, but to the gambing pool players, this is perceived as a flaw, and they throw them in the nit category.
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One of two things are going to happen... imma kick yer a$$ or I'm telling mom that you're picking on me.ScottR said:Or, a person who starts a poll to define the word "nit".
Back in 90 or 91 the local pool room owner & well known backer had a decent sized tournament that ran for two days and brought in some fairly big names due to a recent pro tourney in the area. Tommy Kennedy won the tournament and proceeded to collect his winnings and leave. I recall one of the locals ranting and raving about what a nit TK was because he wouldn't gamble. "Here he is with all that money in his pocket and the F'ing nit won't gamble a dime of it...and all these players in here..." LOL, he was pissed!SUPERSTAR said:
Nit????????????
Someone who plays like superman but bets like mickey mouse.
Someone who gets 2 games up an starts looking at their watch.
Someone who gets 5 games up an says they have time for one more game must go pick up wife or ect,ect.
Someone 12 or so games up an refuses to raise bet.
Some who gets up an always quits over some ridiculous reason got Sharked, bad hit when its obvious it was a good hit, bad rack, ect,ect.
Someone who puts on airs as worlds greats player but won't gamble for one of 10'000 reasons when everybody knows they have the heart of the smallest of all fleas. Not directed at anyone on forum.
Pinocchio
The list could go on forever an a day.
Someone who plays like superman but bets like mickey mouse.
Someone who gets 2 games up an starts looking at their watch.
Someone who gets 5 games up an says they have time for one more game must go pick up wife or ect,ect.
Someone 12 or so games up an refuses to raise bet.
Some who gets up an always quits over some ridiculous reason got Sharked, bad hit when its obvious it was a good hit, bad rack, ect,ect.
Someone who puts on airs as worlds greats player but won't gamble for one of 10'000 reasons when everybody knows they have the heart of the smallest of all fleas. Not directed at anyone on forum.
Pinocchio
The list could go on forever an a day.
Pinocchio said:
I have to disagree with this.
If i am pounding on someone, why should i up the bet and make it EASIER for them to break even, if not win.
Just cause someone is stuck, and wants to chase their money, doesn't in any way obligate me to up the bet for their benefit.
If they can't hack the game, they can quit, but there is no way that i'm gonna provide them with an opportunity to win a LESS AMOUNT of games then i did, and be rewarded for it. If they wanted to bet it up, they could have said that right from the start.
Timberly said:
In pool and poker, it's a gambling insult. As in, "you're afraid to gamble." But, I see all this wonderful definitions, and I hate most of them. Normally, whatever reason someone has to either not gamble, or not to change spots, it's the guy who's down that will accuse him of being a nit. That's total BS and sour grapes.
You don't get so much of this in the poker games (that I"ve been in). If a guy walks in, plays one hand, win, and walks, that might be considered nitty.But, if a guy has played for an hour, been up and down wins a big pot, and then decides to quit, nobody in my poker games has ever complained. Hell, nobody seems to complain if someone does the one game and up thing. And I see this as comon in the poker games I've dropped in on in different states.
In pool, you gamble all friggin' day, and no matter at what point, up or down, turning over hundreds of dollars either way, never having a problem paying when you lose, someone's going to call you a nit if you don't jack it up or if you're ready to call it a day.
Sometimes, some of thes idiots deserve a nice pop in the mouth when they open it up.
Fred
Ridiculous!!!!!!!!!
Why bust your sucker in the mouth where can never get anymore action from him. Why not just raise it an bust him if you can beat somebody for 20.00 a game 50.00 would probably be easier than 20.00 because your under no pressure unless you invent some.
Pinocchio
Why bust your sucker in the mouth where can never get anymore action from him. Why not just raise it an bust him if you can beat somebody for 20.00 a game 50.00 would probably be easier than 20.00 because your under no pressure unless you invent some.
Pinocchio
Timberly said:
When I was hanging out in pool halls all the time, a nit was:
1) Someone who wanted to play you for $2 and only had $6 in their pocket. ever.
2) Anyone who beat you in a tournament and then refused to gamble afterwards was a nit, no matter what else they did in their entire life.
3) Someone who would practice by themselves and never want to gamble.
Now that I'm married, have a job, and other obligations for time and money besides pool, I've been getting called a nit recently...and I've come to realize that a nit is any pool player with a wife, a job, and/or other obligations for time and money outside of pool.
Cheers,
RC
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Agreed...there are many different ways it can be used as specified in earlier posts. If you were to generalize your definition of nit in the pool world, would you say it's based more about money/gambling, or would you say that it's short for "nit-wit"?JimBo said:
Why not just bust him at the original bet.
I'm not saying that upping the bet isn't a good thing. I have been on both ends of it, but if i play someone for 12 hours, and am up a certain amount of games, you can be sure that if he comes with the lets play a set for all of it, of wants to jack up the bet say like 3 times the original wager, if i felt good i might change things, but if i didn't, there is no way that i'm gonna just take all my hard work for granted and throw my winnings away on one roll of the dice. Why do them that favor
If the person gets pissed that i don't increase the bet, and decides to never play me again as a result of it. BIG DEAL. If the score is big enough he can crash and die on the way home for all i care. I have his money. If he's gonna be all bent about it, he shouldn't have bet in the first place.
I'm not saying that upping the bet isn't a good thing. I have been on both ends of it, but if i play someone for 12 hours, and am up a certain amount of games, you can be sure that if he comes with the lets play a set for all of it, of wants to jack up the bet say like 3 times the original wager, if i felt good i might change things, but if i didn't, there is no way that i'm gonna just take all my hard work for granted and throw my winnings away on one roll of the dice. Why do them that favor
If the person gets pissed that i don't increase the bet, and decides to never play me again as a result of it. BIG DEAL. If the score is big enough he can crash and die on the way home for all i care. I have his money. If he's gonna be all bent about it, he shouldn't have bet in the first place.
SUPERSTAR said:And you must be one of those guys who chase their money when they are losing by asking to raise the bet cause you can't deal with looking at being stuck 12 games or so.
You must like losing
Not at all. The point was if you were 12 games up, not down. If I was 12 games up on someone and they asked to double the bet I guarantee you I am going to accommodate them, most of the people I compete against would be willing to do the same thing, the only exceptions are the NITS.
So to not be a nit, a winning player has to accomodate the losing player for whatever he/she want is that it?
Whatever you say man.
Your money, your choices.
Which is fine. But to say someone is a nit because they WON'T is completely ridiculous. If they are up 12 games, and they quit without warning, i will agree that they can be classified as a nit, but not cause they won't change the bet.
If i'm playing someone for 400 a game in one pocket, and they are stuck 3 games after like 6 hours, and want to play for 800, it's not going to happen. Maybe at 5 a game 9 ball and i'm up 10 games in 20 minutes, but not at 200 a game where i'm up 6 games after 3 hours.
The bet AND time factor into the whole equation so take that into consideration.
If you do change the bet, and you end up on the losing end of it a few times when they go stellar or go and coke up in the bathroom, you will change your mind. You might still want to do it, but if you go broke enough times taking your shot, you'll learn.
Cause im my book, if i double the bet, i am not quitting. So if i go down the toilet, i go down the toilet.
Would all these people that accept the doubling of the bet that you know be willing to go down the toilet at that new bet? Or would they quit once they got even?
Cause to me, THAT'S being a nit. Trying to get a big win, but not willing to lose a dime in return.
I know lots of gamblers who won't ever change the game, and that's at 5 bucks a game, or 500, and they are the furthest thing from nits. They are GREAT ACTION.
My whole point is that if someone wanted to lay it all on the line, they could have announced that at the beginning, and saved everyone the trouble, instead of pussyfooting around at a cheaper bet to feel each other out.
Bet it all and get it over with.
Don't make a game, and when you have the losing end of it, want them to "help you out" getting unstuck. Forget that garbage. 'If that is the case, why bother gambling at all?
If they are gonna go off, they are gonna go off at whatever price you set.
Whatever you say man.
Your money, your choices.
Which is fine. But to say someone is a nit because they WON'T is completely ridiculous. If they are up 12 games, and they quit without warning, i will agree that they can be classified as a nit, but not cause they won't change the bet.
If i'm playing someone for 400 a game in one pocket, and they are stuck 3 games after like 6 hours, and want to play for 800, it's not going to happen. Maybe at 5 a game 9 ball and i'm up 10 games in 20 minutes, but not at 200 a game where i'm up 6 games after 3 hours.
The bet AND time factor into the whole equation so take that into consideration.
If you do change the bet, and you end up on the losing end of it a few times when they go stellar or go and coke up in the bathroom, you will change your mind. You might still want to do it, but if you go broke enough times taking your shot, you'll learn.
Cause im my book, if i double the bet, i am not quitting. So if i go down the toilet, i go down the toilet.
Would all these people that accept the doubling of the bet that you know be willing to go down the toilet at that new bet? Or would they quit once they got even?
Cause to me, THAT'S being a nit. Trying to get a big win, but not willing to lose a dime in return.
I know lots of gamblers who won't ever change the game, and that's at 5 bucks a game, or 500, and they are the furthest thing from nits. They are GREAT ACTION.
My whole point is that if someone wanted to lay it all on the line, they could have announced that at the beginning, and saved everyone the trouble, instead of pussyfooting around at a cheaper bet to feel each other out.
Bet it all and get it over with.
Don't make a game, and when you have the losing end of it, want them to "help you out" getting unstuck. Forget that garbage. 'If that is the case, why bother gambling at all?
If they are gonna go off, they are gonna go off at whatever price you set.