Where is the "X Breaker" now?

I once heard a funny comedy routine by Jeff Foxworthy. He was talking about his younger years when he wasn't so famous & was broke most of the time. He had gone out & bought a car & was behind on his payments. The loan company finally came by his house to repo the car. The repo man was feeling sorry for Jeff & asked him if he could just make a payment then he wouldn't have to take the car.
Jeff replied, "A payment I would love to make you a payment but I don't have any cash."
The repo man said, "Well just right me a check & I'll be on my way. "
Jeff's final reply, "A check, well why didn't you say so in the first place. Hell, I'll just write you a check and pay off the entire balance."
 
Strange

It is strange that this thread is rolling along and Richard Chan has not stepped in to stop it or correct it.

I now have one of the samsara x-breakers- I got it via trade. It is a nice cue. Much better than the first generation models- no comparison.
 
gforces1911 said:
It is strange that this thread is rolling along and Richard Chan has not stepped in to stop it or correct it.

I now have one of the samsara x-breakers- I got it via trade. It is a nice cue. Much better than the first generation models- no comparison.
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How is the Samsara better? I believe my cue is the first generation Xbreaker so the no comparison statement you make has me very interested in the details. thanks
 
gforces1911 said:
It is strange that this thread is rolling along and Richard Chan has not stepped in to stop it or correct it.

I now have one of the samsara x-breakers- I got it via trade. It is a nice cue. Much better than the first generation models- no comparison.
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YOU BEAT ME TO IT:(
 
Do y'all not pay attention to Platinum's quantification of the superior speed and accuracy of the Predator Bk-2?

Do y'all not pay attention to the great number of pro's using the BK-2 including Efren and Corey and Rodney and Ronnie, etc...?
 
inthezone said:
Do y'all not pay attention to Platinum's quantification of the superior speed and accuracy of the Predator Bk-2?

Do y'all not pay attention to the great number of pro's using the BK-2 including Efren and Corey and Rodney and Ronnie, etc...?
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Ummmm, no. I don't think anyone is paying attention to Fury's results either but we stay close to sold out on the Fury Jump Break cues without any superfluous claims of superiorty.
 
John Barton said:
Ummmm, no. I don't think anyone is paying attention to Fury's results either but we stay close to sold out on the Fury Jump Break cues without any superfluous claims of superiorty.
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Not sure what you are trying to say by "superfluous" which means unnecessary or redundant....

The Fury ranks third for speed and squirt is average so at the price seems a wise choice for many - why do you think that the independant quantification of your cue's actual performance has not helped your sales?

Seems to me that the smart way to buy any piece of sports equipment is to look at reputable independant test results and also at what the best/most knowledgeable players are using.
 
inthezone said:
Not sure what you are trying to say by "superfluous" which means unnecessary or redundant....

The Fury ranks third for speed and squirt is average so at the price seems a wise choice for many - why do you think that the independant quantification of your cue's actual performance has not helped your sales?

Seems to me that the smart way to buy any piece of sports equipment is to look at reputable independant test results and also at what the best/most knowledgeable players are using.
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Yes I meant unnecessary claims. I do think that Platinum's test helps us to some degree but it's not readily measurable by us. We don't refer people to Platinum's testing because they sell our products and it's a conflict of interest for us, at least this is how I feel about it. Another example is getting referenced through others. For instance this would be one the very few times anyone has quoted or referenced results from the Platinum testing when talking jump break cues on this board.

Which is why I said no to the question of whether anyone is paying attention to Platinum's results.

I would love to have an independent body, completely independent, to send products to for testing. I would love to see the results published quarterly. I firmly believe that this would improve the products across the board and reduce the exaggerated claims foisted on consumers by salesmen who know that most consumers have nowhere to go to verify such claims.

I would be the first one to send products there.
 
"I would love to have an independent body, completely independent, to send products to for testing. I would love to see the results published quarterly. I firmly believe that this would improve the products across the board and reduce the exaggerated claims foisted on consumers by salesmen who know that most consumers have nowhere to go to verify such claims."

I'll second that...:p
 
watchez said:
John--What are your thoughts on the Patent #7097570 B2 that Gulyassy has obtained regarding his ferrule tip & how it will effect the manufacturing & sales of many of todays break/jump cues?
http://www.babysproshop.com/Patent_Information.html
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It is my opinion that the patent is written in such a way as to not be very effective if challenged seriously. It will probably work well enough to scare some people from doing whatever it is that Mike might claim is infringing. However, as has been discussed before here, a serious challenger will find that the patent as such has many obstacles to prove infringement.

I very much doubt that this patent will effect the manufacture and sales very much at all of today's jump/break cues.
 
John Barton said:
It is my opinion that the patent is written in such a way as to not be very effective if challenged seriously. It will probably work well enough to scare some people from doing whatever it is that Mike might claim is infringing. However, as has been discussed before here, a serious challenger will find that the patent as such has many obstacles to prove infringement.

I very much doubt that this patent will effect the manufacture and sales very much at all of today's jump/break cues.
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I'll be the first to admit that I don't know the first thing about patents. You would think that if the US Patent Office is a legit institution, that they wouldn't approve or hand out a patent that wasn't effective. Why make any inventor jump thru hoops if it holds so many obstacles to prove infringement?
 
watchez said:
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know the first thing about patents. You would think that if the US Patent Office is a legit institution, that they wouldn't approve or hand out a patent that wasn't effective. Why make any inventor jump thru hoops if it holds so many obstacles to prove infringement?
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The patent office is only interested in finding out if the patent as written satisfies their formula and if the claims are similar to any existing patent or pending claim. They aren't interested in the validity of the claims since they can't readily check them for accuracy.

There are many thousands of instances of companies filing "predatory" patents for the purpose of extorting "infringement" settlements from companies using the patented methods. Often, when challenged, these patents are found to not be sufficient to prove infringement and the defendant is free to continue manufacturing without impediment. Other times the patent is struck down.

This is where patent attorneys make all their money. Anyone with a little knowledge can get a patent approved. So there are many attorneys who take on anyone's invention, do very little due diligence and write a patent that will satisfy the patent office. Then, down the road when the inventor tries to enforce his patent, another more competent patent attorney will rip the claims to shreds and prove that not only is the defendant not infringing but that there are grounds to countersue.

Getting a patent or a trademark is only one step. Enforcing it is where the problem lies.

I know. It cost me $30,000 to "win" the right to a registered trademark that I owned.
 
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