Which 14.1 Professional do you most emulate?

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Title says it all guys would love to see some responses.

I know for me its John Schmidt. He can play controlled and tight or he can let his stroke out which if you ask Steve I am very prone to doing just because I like watching the cue ball move and saying "hey i did that" lol.
 
Most recently, Dennis Walsh. You should hear some of the names I call the cue ball - or maybe you shouldn't.

;)
 
Most recently, Dennis Walsh. You should hear some of the names I call the cue ball - or maybe you shouldn't.

;)

Very funny, black jack. :D

A new guy in our league asked me if I edit out the swear words after I have video'd our matches.

I remember a guy told me he was watching our match when he wife came in and he pointed me out and said that's Dennis Walsh. Just about that time I let out with a "MF".

I think I see a trend here. :embarrassed2:

But back to Charlie's point, I would love to be able to emulate someone like Hopkins, or Diliberto in their old style patterns, but I do more like what Charlie does. Hit rail after rail. A friend was working with me yesterday telling me I could just roll the ball-no English as a drill. We will see where that goes.
 
Most recently, Dennis Walsh. You should hear some of the names I call the cue ball - or maybe you shouldn't.

;)

For me, I'd have to say Blackjack Sapolis. I recently smashed the back-half of my grip hand (middle, ring, pinkie) when my car's hood came down on my hand. So I have to grip the cue like a teacup handle (just the pads of the index finger and thumb) since the rest of my fingers are useless. Voila! The Blackjack grip. :p

;)
-Sean
 
Dallas West.


I'm still having difficulty adapting the smash the pack, "balls out" break shot which seem to be the norm of todays players. :banghead:
 
I would like to say that i try to emulate the likes of Jim Rempe and a touch of Jose Garcia. i like to try to play a more controlled game as they do, it seems the more i stray from that the more trouble i get myself into !
 
For me, I'd have to say Blackjack Sapolis. I recently smashed the back-half of my grip hand (middle, ring, pinkie) when my car's hood came down on my hand. So I have to grip the cue like a teacup handle (just the pads of the index finger and thumb) since the rest of my fingers are useless. Voila! The Blackjack grip. :p

;)
-Sean

Francisco Bustamante used that same type of grip to win a world championship at 9 ball. A few years ago he came very close to winning a world championship at 14.1 with the same grip, so it can't be that bad. I didn't really copy that from Bustamante, I copied Edgar Acaba. When you play around with different grips and finger placements, it opens up an entirely new world for you.

My set up bears an uncanny resemblance to Cisero Murphy's. Most of my 14.1 style is a combination of Cisero Murphy, Cowboy Jimmy Moore, and The Miz.

My cussing style, 100% Walsh.
 
The guy that strikes me as most similar to me in terms of his manner around the table and style of game is Thomas Engert. Interesting that he comes to mind considering I don't play lefty. He doesn't do much fancy, just good solid pattern play but the guy can definitely come with a shot (like a cut up corner or a long straight in) when he needs it to keep the inning alive.

There are probably some others, I just wish I had the chance to see more straight pool and really analyze the styles of all the top players.
 
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The guy that strikes me as most similar to me in terms of his manner around the table and style of game is Thomas Engert. Interesting that he comes to mind considering I don't play lefty. He doesn't do much fancy, just good solid pattern play but the guy can definitely come with a shot (like a cut up corner or a long straight in) when he needs it to keep the inning alive.

There are probably some others, I just wish I had the chance to see more straight pool and really analyze the styles of all the top players.

I have not seen that much of Engert, nor have I analyzed his patterns. But I am quite taken with his rhythm around the table. It is as smooth as anybody's.
 
I have not seen that much of Engert, nor have I analyzed his patterns. But I am quite taken with his rhythm around the table. It is as smooth as anybody's.

You should pick up the 2006 World Championships from Seyberts through the AZ Marketplace. They still are running that killer deal of $12 for the whole set. I believe it includes two of Engert's matches and it will give you a good chance to see his straight pool game:

http://www.seyberts.com/catalog/2006_World_14.1-227.html
 
Francisco Bustamante used that same type of grip to win a world championship at 9 ball. A few years ago he came very close to winning a world championship at 14.1 with the same grip, so it can't be that bad. I didn't really copy that from Bustamante, I copied Edgar Acaba. When you play around with different grips and finger placements, it opens up an entirely new world for you.

My set up bears an uncanny resemblance to Cisero Murphy's. Most of my 14.1 style is a combination of Cisero Murphy, Cowboy Jimmy Moore, and The Miz.

My cussing style, 100% Walsh.

[...as Sean does his best MacCauley Culkins "Home Alone" impression... "Yyyyeesssssssss!!" with a fist pump. Got 'im!] :D

I was having fun with ya, Dave. You know that.

Seriously though, you're preaching to the choir when it comes to experimenting with different grips, hand placement, feet placement, head/eye placement, etc. I went through the veritable *gamut* over the course of many years, trying to re-discover all those nuances that I used to know "by rote" before I'd put the cues down for 14 years. (Quite literally -- after leaving the service, I put my cues in the back of the closet so I could focus on my career. For 14 years I didn't play any pool [not of any consequence, other than a very rare barbox game] during that whole time.)

Then, I got bit by the bug again about 5 years ago. And I had to go through "rediscovering" all those nuances, because during the service, I never kept a notebook -- and I regret it to this day that I didn't. Yes, as I was getting back into the game, I initially toyed with the "teacup handle" grip, because, like you, I admired Bustamante's smooth style. Then I went through an Allen Hopkins style, then Steve Mizerak style, then a Buddy Hall style, then a Thorsten Hohmann style (yes, emulating the stance, grip, stroke, etc. of *all* those players). Until finally, a regimented snooker style (which addressed *more* than just the grip -- it also fixed my stance, too). That is where I am today. Interesting, for when I was a pure pool nut, I used to think the snooker style "looked kinda pansy" with that one straightened leg, the other leg bent, and the person bent over the table purely at the waist, derriere sticking out in the air. It's interesting, because now I totally "get it" about the snooker stance, and I take back all those thoughts I used to have in my immature pool days. That is progression, though.

So you can see, I'm not one of those close-minded types that ridicules that which he doesn't know. I actually traversed *through* the teacup grip phase, so I know what it's about. Nice try, though, Dave. :p

All in good fun,
-Sean

P.S.: if it wasn't clear, I was partially kidding about the latter half of my hand being completely "useless." I did smash my hand under the hood of my car, but not that bad. I did use it as an excuse to leverage an opportunity to have fun at your expense, though. :p :D
 
I have a video of Irving Crane/Joe Balsis and have watched Crane's artistry countless time. I would have to say I try to emulate Irving Crane.
 
Irving Crane?

It's been said that Crane never played a shot his mother couldn't make. Do you guys really want to play that much defense???

For me, I'd like to say Ralf Souquet. Not slow at the table, but certainly measured. Pinpoint positional accuracy minimizing the need to move whitey around excessively and especially without control.

Ron F
 
For me, I'd like to say Ralf Souquet. Not slow at the table, but certainly measured. Pinpoint positional accuracy minimizing the need to move whitey around excessively and especially without control.

Ron F

Ron: For a good example of Souquet, you only need look at the accu-stats match of Reyes vs. Souquet. I believe it might have been the 2000 US Open. Nick Varner is one of the commentators and Ralf plays so perfect, Nick does not have that much to say.

I'm sure you have watched it.
 
Ron: For a good example of Souquet, you only need look at the accu-stats match of Reyes vs. Souquet. I believe it might have been the 2000 US Open. Nick Varner is one of the commentators and Ralf plays so perfect, Nick does not have that much to say.

I'm sure you have watched it.

I agree. I believe Ralf pops off a 120 on Efren - technical perfection.
 
It's been said that Crane never played a shot his mother couldn't make. Do you guys really want to play that much defense???

His position play was so spot on that he was rarely faced with a shot his mother couldn't make.
 
It's been said that Crane never played a shot his mother couldn't make. Do you guys really want to play that much defense???

I'd love to have nothing but easy shots and defense is huge part of the game. I also admire Crane for his longevity...winning major championships in four decades I believe.

Dennis
 
If you re not thinkin about the *whole* game- and there is defense included, you ll have a problem in your life-time....and a big one^^
 
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