Which of these characteristics is the most important to a pool player?

bomber said:
As a former baseball player and current coach of both baseball and football, I have studied athletics of all kinds throughout my life. There are striking similarities in all athletic contests. There are certain characteristics that athletes share whether it is baseball, golf, or billiards. I have listed some of these characteristics below. I would like to know which of these charactersitics is the most imporant to a pool player and why?

1. Vision
2. Wrist action
3. Strength
4. Stamina/Endurance
5. Intelligence/Knowledge
6. Spatial IQ
7. Conditioning
8. Patience
9. Determination
10. other? (you make the call)

You can only pick one. I know that a combo. of all these is important, but for arguement sake, lets try to decide the number one factor.

Got to be 5. There are many, many people with the other attributes, but native intelligence and acquired knowledge are much rarer.
 
Crawl before ya' walk

I feel the two most important are technique and concentration.

When you first learn the game it's 90% physical and 10% mental as you learn the fundamentals of stance, grip, aiming, stroke, follow through, etc.

Once you have mastered technique, I believe the game does a 180 degree flip flop, and becomes 90% MENTAL and 10% physical, as the physical is hopefully second nature, and is sub-conscious.

Once you have established good technique the difference between running 10 balls and a 110 balls, is CONCENTRATION! :D It's mostly all mental at that point. :cool:

While strength conditioning may be vital to one's performance in OTHER sports, I don't think it's as big a factor in billiards.;)
 
CrownCityCorey said:
...P.S. Your mention of "Spatial IQ" reminded me of this: I have always understood that Men generally posess an innately superior ability to determine spatial relationships than Women for some reason. Maybe that has something to do with the Men vs. Women threads in pool?

That has been my contention for a long time, but people dismiss it. They just don't want to accept that there might truly be a physiological reason for the difference. I also maintain that generally overall physical coodination is innately better in men. Women are more coordinated in terms of dexterity, but men are more coordinated in terms of gross physical movements. I believe this is genetically based, having evolved due to the success of the early division of labor into hunters (men) needing greater spatial ability and gross physical coordination and gatherers (women) needing greater manual dexterity.
Call me crazy.
 
We can schedule before the Betmore vs Breakup Match

Maniac said:
Blind people are gonna struggle at pool :eek: ??? Pardner, it's gonna be a whole lot worse than a struggle. Jigger, given all the other attributes, how many balls do ya think a blind player is gonna run :D :D :D ??? When you put your blind player up against my perfect vision player w/bad hand-to-eye coordination we're gonna lay some serious green down on top of that table light ;) !!!!!

Maniac

OK Maniac & PoolBum, we gotta bet! I'll bet the blind guy can pocket a ball --- You bet on the quadrapalegic with perfect vision making a ball!:D ;)

Was kind of assuming some reasonable degree of vision in my earlier post when I mentioned hand/eye coordination.
 
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This post is taking a very interesting direction.

Can you imagine: 2008 DCC One Pocket Finals: Ronnie Milsap vs. Stephen Hawking. Wonder who the railbirds would be taking.

I believe that we are officially going to hell now.
 
bomber said:
This post is taking a very interesting direction.

Can you imagine: 2008 DCC One Pocket Finals: Ronnie Milsap vs. Stephen Hawking. Wonder who the railbirds would be taking.

I believe that we are officially going to hell now.
haha thats funny
 
Well ......

bomber said:
As a former baseball player and current coach of both baseball and football, I have studied athletics of all kinds throughout my life. There are striking similarities in all athletic contests. There are certain characteristics that athletes share whether it is baseball, golf, or billiards. I have listed some of these characteristics below. I would like to know which of these charactersitics is the most imporant to a pool player and why?

1. Vision
2. Wrist action
3. Strength
4. Stamina/Endurance
5. Intelligence/Knowledge
6. Spatial IQ
7. Conditioning
8. Patience
9. Determination
10. other? (you make the call)

You can only pick one. I know that a combo. of all these is important, but for arguement sake, lets try to decide the number one factor.
Iwould have to select number ..5. Intelligence/Knowledge.. since a player with great vision, stamina, patience and determination will not amount to a hill of beans without the complete understanding and comprehension of the GEOMETRY aspect of pool and with the understanding of how to read a table ! combined with the intelligence of how to put these factors together in a game! :cool:
 
As far as all of the post regarding Vision...

I think it is automatically understood (perhaps another point for LOL! intelligence) that certain sports require standard capabilities ! For instance some one who is a quadraplegic would be at a distinct disadvantage trying to compete in Golf or Bowling! :rolleyes:

So in the same light if you are BLIND! you certainly would not be competitve in pool or trap shooting for example! But if your vision was not 20/ 20 you could overcome that issue with ball control and knowledge in this sport! ie: being able to keep your shots short and within your range! and being able to use your skills to play safes when it wasn't within your accurate vision range! :)
 
Intelligence/Knowledge

I personally think if you have this up front, then everything else can be learned. But if you can't learn or have the ability to aquire the knowledge do so, those other things will only get you so far.
 
I think I would rather have less than perfect vision with a good stroke/muscle memory. Doesn't help to have perfect vision if you cannot shoot straight, IMO.
 
bomber said:
As a former baseball player and current coach of both baseball and football, I have studied athletics of all kinds throughout my life. There are striking similarities in all athletic contests. There are certain characteristics that athletes share whether it is baseball, golf, or billiards. I have listed some of these characteristics below. I would like to know which of these charactersitics is the most imporant to a pool player and why?

1. Vision
2. Wrist action
3. Strength
4. Stamina/Endurance
5. Intelligence/Knowledge
6. Spatial IQ
7. Conditioning
8. Patience
9. Determination
10. other? (you make the call)

You can only pick one. I know that a combo. of all these is important, but for arguement sake, lets try to decide the number one factor.
Conditioning to me would equal, muscle memory through practice. This also leads to shot recognition and pattern play. I would go with #7.

Tracy
 
Well

from my 45 years of playing, I would have to say 'Vision', and I am not talking about your eyes (although I have never had good vision). I am talking about the visions that go on in your head, being able to 'see' the shot or recognize the 'safety' before you shoot it.

From Vision comes imagination and curiousity, 2 things that are definately needed to help you get to the next level. From Vision also comes inspiration.
I would say all great players would have to have vision to reach the ranks of being great.
 
MrLucky said:
I think it is automatically understood (perhaps another point for LOL! intelligence) that certain sports require standard capabilities ! For instance some one who is a quadraplegic would be at a distinct disadvantage trying to compete in Golf or Bowling! :rolleyes:

So in the same light if you are BLIND! you certainly would not be competitve in pool or trap shooting for example! But if your vision was not 20/ 20 you could overcome that issue with ball control and knowledge in this sport! ie: being able to keep your shots short and within your range! and being able to use your skills to play safes when it wasn't within your accurate vision range! :)

Very true. Even without 20/20 vision you can still become an excellent shot maker.

I agree everyone who said hand eye co-ordination. Not every person is capable of creating a repeatable stroke.
 
Without a doubt - (10)/coordination.

How can this not be on your list?!

I used to think vision, but ask anybody in Roanoke, Va. who the best pool player there ever was, and they will all say Bobby Thomas. And he wore friggin coke bottles for glasses. Now maybe if he had had good eyes he would have been world champ, but I think he had other attributes that were more important.
 
Whitewolf,

Hence the other category on this list...by leaving some obvious ones off the list, more interesting discussion occurs.
 
A sneaky pete is the key to success. Wrapless of course because linen would you make you miss those crucial shots.
 
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