Which Sneaky to buy?
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What are ya, tryin' to start a war on here! 
Any one of those guys can meet your needs, and a few more.
Try to get your hands on someones and take it for a test drive, go from there.
Any one of those guys can meet your needs, and a few more.
Try to get your hands on someones and take it for a test drive, go from there.
half fast bankr said:What are ya, tryin' to start a war on here!
Any one of those guys can meet your needs, and a few more.
Try to get your hands on someones and take it for a test drive, go from there.
I really don't want to start a war
I know, that the names above are all great cuemakers!!!
But living in Germany, i have no chance to test drive even one of these cues.
So i'm changing my question a little bit: By now i'm playing an Jeff Olney Cue. The way it plays is perfekt to me. Now i'm looking for a sneaky playing nearly in the same way.
Please let me know your opinions.
Thanks again,
Stefan
Remember, its the indian, not the arrow. If you like Olney, get him to make you a SP. And if you use a predator shaft, who cares about the butt, especially in a SP ? Of course, the joint is important, but other than that. If no predator, I'd seek out a frey or a josey. Or a tiger with a purple heart nose.
tim
tim
Go with the Josey. I have a josey sneaky and it plays great. The Joseys are world class people.
I agree 100%.No_English said:
If you're lucky enough to get him to make you one, Leon Sly makes the best playing sneaky pete and his points are very close to perfect. He's trying to only make higher end cues because of all the work that goes into a sneaky for a much lower price. good luck, Bob C. p.s. Leon's number#410-827-4966 around 5 o'clock after shop hours is best.
Pat Diveney
I have owned both a Frey and Diveney and I greatly preferred the Diveney. In fact I sold the Frey and kept the Diveney and I have no regrets. It is personal preference, but there is a reason you see so many Diveney cues on dealer websites. Pat is a much newer name and yet he is considered to build one of the better sneaky petes on the market.
Other high-end sneaky petes to watch for would be a Richard Harris Bluegrass or a Eric Crisp Sugartree as these would be some awesome sneaky petes, but very hard to obtain.
dakota
I have owned both a Frey and Diveney and I greatly preferred the Diveney. In fact I sold the Frey and kept the Diveney and I have no regrets. It is personal preference, but there is a reason you see so many Diveney cues on dealer websites. Pat is a much newer name and yet he is considered to build one of the better sneaky petes on the market.
Other high-end sneaky petes to watch for would be a Richard Harris Bluegrass or a Eric Crisp Sugartree as these would be some awesome sneaky petes, but very hard to obtain.
dakota
I would recommend a Frey. I have a beautiful cocobolo Frey for sale. The points are perfect and it is forward balanced ( 19 ounces and 18.5 inches from butt cap with weight bolt installed). Look at my "For Sale" post. Chuck
I own several sneaky pete cues. They all hit well, basically because the are full spliced cues. Depending on how much you want to spend, here is my list. In addition to this list I recently played with a sneaky that was made by masonH who is an active AZB member, and his sneakies play great also.
Not in any particular order
Bob Frey
Bob Runde
Paul Mottey
Sugartree
Mike Stacey
Madison Bob
Showcase
Ernie Martinez
Steve Klein
Predator
Not in any particular order
Bob Frey
Bob Runde
Paul Mottey
Sugartree
Mike Stacey
Madison Bob
Showcase
Ernie Martinez
Steve Klein
Predator
staffi01 said:
Agreed, I haven't been able to get comfortable with SS joints either.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the joint on my Frey Sneaky. It's not a steel joint. It is a 3/8-10 pin wood to wood joint with a very thin steel collar, similar to a phenolic collar only much thinner. This joint hits like any other wood to wood joint. The ideal behind the joint collar is to maximize the wood to wood contact while reinforcing the joint. It actually has more wood to wood contact than a cue with a phenolic collar. Chuck
staffi01 said:
Keith Josey, or Bob Frey get my vote.
Which sneaky to buy?
I have 8 sneaky petes and the best of the bunch is a Jerry Oliver, followed closely by a Leon sly, then Frankie Doodle and the others all play about the same. I also had a custom sneaky made by Schmelke that is a 3/8-10, 60" cue with a 12mm soft tip and it plays a lot like my friend's Jeff Olney cue. I had to have it refaced by a cuemaker here because the joint didn't fit real snug, probably because Schmelke's normal joint is an odd brass thingie, but once I had it refaced it played great. Just my 2 cents.
I have 8 sneaky petes and the best of the bunch is a Jerry Oliver, followed closely by a Leon sly, then Frankie Doodle and the others all play about the same. I also had a custom sneaky made by Schmelke that is a 3/8-10, 60" cue with a 12mm soft tip and it plays a lot like my friend's Jeff Olney cue. I had to have it refaced by a cuemaker here because the joint didn't fit real snug, probably because Schmelke's normal joint is an odd brass thingie, but once I had it refaced it played great. Just my 2 cents.
staffi01 said:
Both the Josey and Diveny cues are going to be stiff hitters...particularly the Josey...which I also found to be slightly back balanced...but not noticeable when shooting...kinda difficult to explain. They are superb players...but they are STIFF.
I cannot really speak as to the others, as I have never played with any other than the Josey, but have heard comments about how the Diveny's are stiff players.
I have to say that I loved the way my Josey played...and fit and finish were flawless. Keith also makes his own full splice blanks, if that matters to you or not, and does not use weight bolts, but prefers to let the cues naturally balance out. Now mine was an ebony cue, with ebony being a very dense wood, which will provide for a stiffer 'feel' to begin with. Some of the other woods tend to be less dense, which may make the cue 'feel' less stiff.
I can tell you this....while a stiff cue tends to be less forgiving, it is because of this that it can help make you a better player. My game jumped leaps and bounds after playing with my Josey for a very short period of time...it was kinda spooky...LoL.
Lisa
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