In your opinions, which table would buy, if all the variables price, condition, cloth, every thing else is the same, would you buy a Brunswick Gold Crown or a Brunswick Centinnial. Thanks for the input.
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Neither one. I'd get a Diamond Pro or Pro/Am. They cost less than a Brunswick, and are much better tables. Besides, they are now the industry standard.
Russ
Russ
Thanks for you comments, I have a old Brunswick Madison cir. 1916, I am thinking of getting different table.
Industry standard ...hmmmm
would that be the most copied { probably Brunswick }
Snooker 6x12 id say is Riley { not diamond }
5x10 a hand full of makers including brunswick { not diamond }
convertable rails from pocket to billiards a few { not diamond }
able to dissasemble and carry up 5 flights of stairs by hand {not diamond }
the list goes on and on...
Now he have a new comer with a frame and rails that are stiffer then the classic brunswick [gold crown]. The diamond banks true from less flex in the rails and frame ie less movement better accuracy. Diamond should be the bmw of tables of today. Both tables are great i love them both equaly..
But for industry standard would have to go to the chineese\taiwaneese tables 900 table manufactures building the same table over and over for $350 wholesale$1000 retail and i install around 10 week versus 1-2 brunswick and diamonds a month @$2000 to $6000 retail.
I dont sell imports i just install and repair them.
Just a can worms partialy opened for the next set of comments.
would that be the most copied { probably Brunswick }
Snooker 6x12 id say is Riley { not diamond }
5x10 a hand full of makers including brunswick { not diamond }
convertable rails from pocket to billiards a few { not diamond }
able to dissasemble and carry up 5 flights of stairs by hand {not diamond }
the list goes on and on...
Now he have a new comer with a frame and rails that are stiffer then the classic brunswick [gold crown]. The diamond banks true from less flex in the rails and frame ie less movement better accuracy. Diamond should be the bmw of tables of today. Both tables are great i love them both equaly..
But for industry standard would have to go to the chineese\taiwaneese tables 900 table manufactures building the same table over and over for $350 wholesale$1000 retail and i install around 10 week versus 1-2 brunswick and diamonds a month @$2000 to $6000 retail.
I dont sell imports i just install and repair them.
Just a can worms partialy opened for the next set of comments.
Brunswick Centenials are pretty nice. But I think more than a few hundred were made. Many pool halls have them.
From what I have seen in them there isn't much difference between the 2 structurally wise. The Centennial doesn't have leg adjusters like the Gold Crowns. But still sturdy. I've seen some with metal all around the blinds that are polished. Beautiful. The frame is the same as the GCs.
So I'd say go with which one you think looks better. Now if your floor is way off level or you are putting it into a finished or unfinished garage with a large slope. I'd suggest the GCs that way you don't have a huge stack of shims trying to level it up.
As for how different the table plays. Unless you are a precise player like Efren Reyes, Johnny Archer, Cliff Joyner, etc. I'd say the difference won't be too much or real noticeable.
From what I have seen in them there isn't much difference between the 2 structurally wise. The Centennial doesn't have leg adjusters like the Gold Crowns. But still sturdy. I've seen some with metal all around the blinds that are polished. Beautiful. The frame is the same as the GCs.
So I'd say go with which one you think looks better. Now if your floor is way off level or you are putting it into a finished or unfinished garage with a large slope. I'd suggest the GCs that way you don't have a huge stack of shims trying to level it up.
As for how different the table plays. Unless you are a precise player like Efren Reyes, Johnny Archer, Cliff Joyner, etc. I'd say the difference won't be too much or real noticeable.
That is a good looking Centenial. Last time I worked on one that nice it was for some gay couple in Atlanta who didn't give a damn about pool. (I'm sure they liked the Sticks, Balls, Butts, Holes part of pool). But it was beautiful.
Another table I like that I think is the most beautiful commercial style is a Medalist by Brunswick. We have one at our shop we took in on trade that is flawless. And it has a deep dark finish that has some cherry in it. Also a 9ft.
The only downside is the frame isn't as sturdy as the GCs. But I bet a GC or Anniversery frame would fit perfect. Which would make that table stong and beautiful
Another table I like that I think is the most beautiful commercial style is a Medalist by Brunswick. We have one at our shop we took in on trade that is flawless. And it has a deep dark finish that has some cherry in it. Also a 9ft.
The only downside is the frame isn't as sturdy as the GCs. But I bet a GC or Anniversery frame would fit perfect. Which would make that table stong and beautiful
n10spool said:
Well, yah.. When you talk about how many tables are on the market, you're probably right..
I meant industry standard as in the 9 foot tables the pros play on, and the one you need if you want to compete against the pros.. I know they compete on other tables, but it seems most majors are played on Diamonds, and if you run out on a Diamond, you throw your stick at the balls and they go in on other tables...
Russ
Diamond tables are doing the most for pool as a sport from the aspect that they are 100% about pool, were brunswick pool is just 2-10% of there whole portfolio about profits and not pool as a sport.
I can see your point i think are the tables to own not in this order but close.
1. Diamond tight and true play
2. Kim Steele they are tighter then a gold crown and play great with a slate leveling system like a gc4.
3. Gold Crown modiefied for tight pockets and playablity.
I just feel these should be good table equal in some parts with some pro's and con's.
Good luck if your still over in Iraq.
Craig
I can see your point i think are the tables to own not in this order but close.
1. Diamond tight and true play
2. Kim Steele they are tighter then a gold crown and play great with a slate leveling system like a gc4.
3. Gold Crown modiefied for tight pockets and playablity.
I just feel these should be good table equal in some parts with some pro's and con's.
Good luck if your still over in Iraq.
Craig
