I was talking things over with my nephew and a few of the other gentlemen in the pool room last night, and I got to thinking, I couldn't figure out who invented the jump break cue... it came about after my long hiatus and now apparently everyone has one, but who was the first to think of the design? anyone have any idea?
who invented it?
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I remember Sammy Jones using his full cue to jump a ball in the late 70s.
Using the cue shaft only (unscrewing it to be used as a mini cue) to jump balls was done in the late 70s also.
I would imagine that a cue maker that had a lot of shafts that were 3rds or worse, just jointed them with a handle the length to match the required 43 inches. The minimum length of a cue. The first Jump cues I ever saw were in the late 80s and looked like short sneaky peats.
Using the cue shaft only (unscrewing it to be used as a mini cue) to jump balls was done in the late 70s also.
I would imagine that a cue maker that had a lot of shafts that were 3rds or worse, just jointed them with a handle the length to match the required 43 inches. The minimum length of a cue. The first Jump cues I ever saw were in the late 80s and looked like short sneaky peats.
thats about rite 89-90 as i recall, and a few guys had break cues-usually guys with big breaks that didnt want to hammer their tip. but it was not common. Then there was a boom in sales and everyone showed up with these golf bag size cue cases with a different cue for everything, after that then marketing guys promoted different shafts, tips, and then chalk. I think there is more money in selling pool than playing pool. oh yeah and 1242 different tip tools.
and at the end of the day Mosconi's record stands, so whats it all about?
As for the combination jump-break cue you're asking about, Mike Gulyassy comes to mind. I don't know why, and can't back it up or bet on it, but it seems like I read it here on AZ once.
That post may have been wrong, and I might be propagating a myth, but it's an answer.
That post may have been wrong, and I might be propagating a myth, but it's an answer.
I know for a fact that Jay Flowers (The case guy) was maybe the first to make one designed specifically for jumping and breaking.. After he came up with it he made a deal with Huebler cue to produce them for him. This predated by far the other guys making them now. If you do research you will find the concept was patented many years ago for a cue where the butt broke down so you could shoot where there was an obstruction. The jump break cue is basically the same thing with just a different function. Pat Fleming was the first to come up with the jump cue concept. He had a full length cue that he jumped with but if you picked it up you found it weighed only like 10 ounces.
Like a lot of things, many people claim to have invented. Some things are fairly obvious and more then one person can come up with the idea independently without coping. Given a problem they just come to the same conclusion.
That Huebler jump break cue you mentioned is on ebay. It's a three piece.
yes this is the answer, infact he needs another nobel peace prize for this-i'll calll that in now.
good looking out thanks for remembering that,
best
eric:smile::smile:
Huebler sort of ran with the idea and kind of stabbed Jay in the back. Not a good idea by the way, he was a dangerous guy, I'm not kidding. They just began making them as a general part of their line and there went Jay's idea. Almost at the same time others saw them, or maybe independently came up with them, and took off with the idea as well. One of the best was Rick Howards (Macecue). I build cues (Hobbyist) so if I want one obviously I would make my own. But if I had to buy one, I would track down a Macecue by Rick Howard. I don't know if he still makes cues but he was a good player.
In the early 80's Raphael Martinez would jump balls with his regular cue...most couldn't. Then came...
by joey_g on Fri May 11, 2007 11:52 pm
"The first one-piece phenolic ferrule used on jumpers was on Eddie's 747.
Made by master cuemaker Eddie Prewitt back in the 80's.
It was outlawed by BCA.
Years later it became BCA legal somehow..."
by joey_g on Fri May 11, 2007 11:52 pm
"The first one-piece phenolic ferrule used on jumpers was on Eddie's 747.
Made by master cuemaker Eddie Prewitt back in the 80's.
It was outlawed by BCA.
Years later it became BCA legal somehow..."
i remember playing eddie at south bay billiards and he busted out a 747 it was cool, big fat thing, i liked it
Jump cues should be banned.
I'm old school I guess.
I had a guy on the next table practicing jumping the ball for a half hour. I finally told him enough. Why don't you practice cue ball control and you won't have to jump so much.
I'm old school I guess.
I had a guy on the next table practicing jumping the ball for a half hour. I finally told him enough. Why don't you practice cue ball control and you won't have to jump so much.
Not completely true. I was playing him and he had the one piece cue he jumped with. It was 57" one piece but it only weighed about 8 ounces. I don't know if it was just real lite or had been bored out. Most jump cues are very thin and he liked the bigger butt I guess. I was surprised how easy he jumped a ball from a few inches till I picked up the cue and discovered the secret.
Obviously it was Balabushka. Here's the proof: http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Bala...917?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c80f6585
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I'm pretty sure it wasn't Earl Strickland.
I'm with you....
Old Schooler also, learn your rails and you will never need a jump cue. Take some practice time....hang a ball in every corner, take cue ball BEHIND the line and make all four balls going at LEAST 3 rails. When you can make all 4 consecutively you'll be on your way.:grin:
Old Schooler also, learn your rails and you will never need a jump cue. Take some practice time....hang a ball in every corner, take cue ball BEHIND the line and make all four balls going at LEAST 3 rails. When you can make all 4 consecutively you'll be on your way.:grin: