Why CTE is silly

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manwon said:
No it shouldn't this should be the poster child for what a thread should never be, no one really cares who has the biggest Pecker!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

I think that this thread should be titled who has the biggest one or who is the most psychotic I think that we need to find a psychiatrist to referee this lunatic asylum!!
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I am sorry Craig,

No one is going to believe you have the largest pecker unless you provide a detailed drawing of such with a step by step diagram of how to use it.

Video proof is not allowed. Personal testimonials from yourself and other people who have seen and used your pecker to their satisfaction are not allowed.

Anecdotal evidence about your pecker's size and your ability to use it is silly and anyone who believes such nonsense is dumb.

Please provide only the hard evidence that your pecker is the biggest and works the best.
 
AtLarge said:
28 so far on my set-up!
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Mine is set to 40 posts per page. So mine's only 11 pages so far.

There are however some real gems in here. Ignore ALL of my posts, all of GetMeThere's, all of Pat and Lou's and focus on Spideys, 8Pack's and Mikjary's posts among a few others.

As 8-Pack said the answer might be staring you in the face.
 
Lovely people I have to ditch this thread. So if you are waiting on a response from me it won't be coming.

I like doing these little challenges to myself so if I post in this thread again I will send GetMeThere a cue case with the secret diagram to CTE lasered on it. ;-)
 
JB Cases said:
dr_dave said:
Also included are links to Spidey's blog and video demos from JB Cases.

IMO, the objective explanation of exactly how the CTE method works is: For a given initial alignment, you must create the "effective pivot length" required to create the cut angle necessary for a given shot. Some people are better than this than others; and with practice, this skill can be developed.
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You should not include any videos from me regarding CTE.
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The Internet is a free and open place where any posted information can be linked to from any source. That's what the world-wide-"web" is all about ... lots of readily available and inter-linked information. Links are not and should not be censored (except in China and other "non-open" countries).

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I clearly state that what I am demonstrating is NOT CTE. I clearly state that I am just showing my level of understanding and that I DO NOT KNOW CTE as taught by Hal and Dave and Stan. So the videos of me speaking about CTE that are online should not be used by you as a reference to CTE. When I am certain that I can demonstrate CTE properly and have permission to do so online then I will make a video where I state that I am demonstrating CTE.
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I think the links are appropriate, especially with all of your disclaimers. I look forward to seeing any future videos you might post that provide better and more detailed info. I would be happy to replace the current links when better demos are available.

Again, I still think your current videos are good resources because they show an example of how someone can use an align-and-pivot "aiming system" (like CTE) effectively.

Regards,
Dave
 
JB Cases said:
Dr. Dave says he has spent time on the phone with Hal, where is Dave's published description of CTE as taught by Hal then?
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Most of the discussions I had with Hal centered around fractional-ball aiming, which is documented here (with contributions from Patrick Johnson and Mike Page):

The best descriptions of two of Hal's versions of CTE I have seen or heard can be found here:

If you or Hal want a better or different version of CTE posted, you or Hal will need to post one.

Regards,
Dave
 
JoeyA said:
dr_dave said:
Which part: The "believer" joke, the link to benefits, or the quote from BRKNRUN's post?

If you going to accuse me of making one of the "WORST POSTS EVER" I would like you to explain yourself; otherwise, your post is one of the "WORST POSTS EVER." :p
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I don't mind Dave. I'll give it a try.

It's your poor sense of humor and your attempt to belittle others whom you barely know.

Mostly it is your complete lack of respect for others who share a different religious belief system than yours.

Your religious analogies and references are despicable in my opinion and far from what I expected from you.

I hope that was clear enough for you.
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Joey,

Thank you for the clarification.

First of all, I wonder if you misread part of my original post. FYI, the long religious allegory was not from me. This was a quote from a post made by BRKNRUN. Here it is again:
BRKNRUN said:
Ok...You know people talk like CTE is some sort of Religion....I did some research and this is what I found out.

One day God called Hal to the top of the mountain and he gave him the first part of his new system of pool aiming laws for his people - The Center To Edge method. (CTE summarized the absolutes of spiritual and moral shot makeing that God intended for his people.)

God continued to give direction to his people through Hal, including the civil and ceremonial laws for controlling their CB. Eventually God called Hal to the mountain for 40 days and 40 nights. During this time he gave him instructions for the tabernacle and the CTE instructions. When God finished speaking to Hal on Mount Ivory Rock, he gave him two tablets of stone inscribed by the very finger of God. They contained the CTE instructions.

Meanwhile, the people of the pool world had become impatient while waiting for Hal to return with the instructions from God. Hal had been gone for so long that the people gave up on him and begged Stan to make them Pro-1 so they could worship. So Stan collected offerings of gold from all the people and made a instruction video in the form of Pro-1. Then they held a festival and bowed down to worship their idol. So quickly they had fallen into the idolatry they were accustomed to in the pool world and disobeyed God's CTE instructions.

When Hal came down from the mountain with the tablets of stone, his anger burned when he saw the people given over to idolatry. He threw down the two tablets, smashing them to pieces at the foot of the mountain.

Now you all know why there is not complete written instructions for CTE.
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Again, this was from BRKNRUN, not me. Although, I did quote it in my post, and I can see how that might be interpreted badly.

I have and will continue to "belittle" ideas and "claims" that I think are incorrect, inappropriate, or misleading. It is never my intent to belittle people I respect like Stan. I haven't met him personally, but I have communicated with him on the phone and via e-mail, and I have heard good things about him. I'm sure he is an excellent instructor. I don't think I've ever seen or heard Stan make outrageous claims about CTE or Pro/One. In fact, I think some of his posts (which I have quoted here) have been very practical and realistic.

Again, I'm sorry if I have offended you (e.g., by including BRKNRUN's post in my post), Stan, or anybody else. Again, I'm here to challenge ideas ... not people.

Regards,
Dave
 
JB Cases said:
I am sorry Craig,

No one is going to believe you have the largest pecker unless you provide a detailed drawing of such with a step by step diagram of how to use it.

Video proof is not allowed. Personal testimonials from yourself and other people who have seen and used your pecker to their satisfaction are not allowed.

Anecdotal evidence about your pecker's size and your ability to use it is silly and anyone who believes such nonsense is dumb.

Please provide only the hard evidence that your pecker is the biggest and works the best.
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John I will take the job of Referee, because I do not know enough about the subject to have an informed opinion, and I am married John and have been for 24 years this year, I no longer have control of my Peck my wife keeps it at home a drawer, you know how those Asian Women are!!!!!:)

Since I am the self appointed referee I declare this thread to be a draw, no winner and no loser, so let it die guys no one is serving any purpose here. So lets see who the bigger people are and who just can't control themselves or their actions.:)

Take care gentleman
 
dr_dave said:
Joey,

Thank you for the clarification.

First of all, I wonder if you misread part of my original post. FYI, the long religious allegory was not from me. This was a quote from a post made by BRKNRUN. Here it is again:
Again, this was from BRKNRUN, not me. Although, I did quote it in my post, and I can see how that might be interpreted badly.

I have and will continue to "belittle" ideas and "claims" that I think are incorrect, inappropriate, or misleading. It is never my intent to belittle people I respect like Stan. I haven't met him personally, but I have communicated with him on the phone and via e-mail, and I have heard good things about him. I'm sure he is an excellent instructor. I don't think I've ever seen or heard Stan make outrageous claims about CTE or Pro/One. In fact, I think some of his posts (which I have quoted here) have been very practical and realistic.

Again, I'm sorry if I have offended you (e.g., by including BRKNRUN's post in my post), Stan, or anybody else. Again, I'm here to challenge ideas ... not people.

Regards,
Dave
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Now you've done the formal quote, it is clear that it is Breaknrun's post you were reveling in. You still earn a small patooie for enjoying his post and referring to it.

By referring to his post in the manner you did, it seems at least to the casual observer, that you agree with its content.

Bringing anyone's religion, race, ethnicity or belittling someone in these discussions is poor posting etiquette. That's what NPR is for.

The bigger patooie goes to Breaknrun.

Oh yeah, thanks for making it clear with the last post about who you were quoting. The traditional quote method works great for me. I just by-passed your reference in your original post.
 
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Naysayers!

lfigueroa said:
Joey is probably busy writing up a very positive review of the latest product he got in the mail (for free :-) so let me step in for a moment and be his spokesmodel:

The part where you made fun of Hal.

Lou Figueroa
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Nah. I haven't had the opportunity to do any positive reviews to do on products recently because the freebies have all but dried up.

The billiard product inventors and suppliers probably just don't want to put up with the whiney posts and jealousy by the NAYSAYERS so they're holding out on me. :smile:
 
JoeyA:
Bringing anyone's religion, race, ethnicity or belittling someone in these discussions is poor posting etiquette.
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Comparing belief in CTE to religious belief is not "bringing anyone's religion into it".

pj
chgo
 
JoeyA said:
Now you've done the formal quote, it is clear that it is Breaknrun's post you were reveling in. You still earn a small patooie for enjoying his post and referring to it.
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I think I can live with that. :grin-square:

JoeyA said:
By referring to his post in the manner you did, it seems at least to the casual observer, that you agree with its content.
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I thought it was very creative and a great allegory of reality, but I would have preferred he not specifically name Stan or Pro-One, because we still don't really official know what Pro-One is yet (until the video and/or book comes out).

JoeyA said:
Bringing anyone's religion, race, ethnicity or belittling someone in these discussions is poor posting etiquette. That's what NPR is for.
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Agreed. However, are you implying that I did this in any way??? If you are, I disagree 100%!!! :confused:

JoeyA said:
Oh yeah, thanks for making it clear with the last post about who you were quoting. The traditional quote method works great for me. I just by-passed your reference in your original post.
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I will continue to use the more-structured quoting method in the future, and you should probably read things a little more carefully before jumping to insulting conclusions. I guess that counts as a "patooie" for you also. Now we're even. :wink:

Regards,
Dave
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Comparing belief in CTE to religious belief is not "bringing anyone's religion into it".

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Patrick,
I know you aren't very religious and that's fine with me. I think you've mentioned this before in other posts? My apologies if I'm wrong. I don't have any problem with anyone's lack of religious convictions. That's your business, your private business. I won't ridicule you for your beliefs or lack of beliefs. In fact, I don't even want to discuss yours or mine.

If you or Dr. Dave don't see how the "joke" was designed to make fun of Stan and other people of faith, then I can't help you or him. Actually, I think Dr. Dave apologized "IF" he offended anyone by referring to Breaknrun's post which I originally passed over.

I don't attempt to ridicule people who lack any religious convictions and expect the same respect in return. I also don't make it a practice to ridicule individuals for any reason. Just so you know, I am about as poor of an excuse for a Christian as they come. :o

I'm not much for these type of discussions so I'll bow out.

BTW, you're doing a fantastic job on marshalling some of the billiard discussions. I almost always learn something of value from your posts. You have a unique ability to make the sometimes ambiguous perspectives in pool, quite clear and don't hesitate to point out the erroneous perspectives that many of us have shared from time to time. Thanks for those valuable contributions.
 
JoeyA said:
[in reference to Patrick Johnson]: ... BTW, you're doing a fantastic job on marshalling some of the billiard discussions. I almost always learn something of value from your posts. You have a unique ability to make the sometimes ambiguous perspectives in pool, quite clear and don't hesitate to point out the erroneous perspectives that many of us have shared from time to time. Thanks for those valuable contributions.
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Agreed. PJ is an extremely valuable asset to AZB, even if he isn't always "polite" or "PC."

Regards,
Dave
 
JoeyA said:
Patrick,
I know you aren't very religious and that's fine with me. I think you've mentioned this before in other posts? My apologies if I'm wrong. I don't have any problem with anyone's lack of religious convictions. That's your business, your private business. I won't ridicule you for your beliefs or lack of beliefs. In fact, I don't even want to discuss yours or mine.

If you or Dr. Dave don't see how the "joke" was designed to make fun of Stan and other people of faith, then I can't help you or him. Actually, I think Dr. Dave apologized "IF" he offended anyone by referring to Breaknrun's post which I originally passed over.

I don't attempt to ridicule people who lack any religious convictions and expect the same respect in return. I also don't make it a practice to ridicule individuals for any reason. Just so you know, I am about as poor of an excuse for a Christian as they come. :o

I'm not much for these type of discussions so I'll bow out.

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Joey, I'm sure you know that Dr. Dave was not trying to ridicule or belittle anyone's religious beliefs. I interpreted Breaknrun's post to be a humorous parody in poking a little bit of fun at CTE's proponents. Poking fun of things happens every night on the Letterman and Leno shows -- don't take it personally.

The bottom line is that threads like this one, in which people debate CTE are very much like debating religion. You can debate either topic endlessly after which no one's opinion of the subject has been changed.
 
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JB Cases said:
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I thought we were sticking to scientific concepts here and not social justis topics?
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Damn, and all I did was search for a cue case posting, and John's typo sucked me in to an hour-and-a-half black hole...
 
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