Thanks, Bob. That was much more concise that what GMT has written. I always estimate my targets with the edges of the ball, so that would account for the discrepancies in the discussion.
Why CTE is silly
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Thanks, Bob. That was much more concise that what GMT has written. I always estimate my targets with the edges of the ball, so that would account for the discrepancies in the discussion.
So, you mock the people that tried their best to explain it?
Let me say this... The folks that have tried to explain how it works did their best to explain the steps and motions. Many on here have said they worked on it until they got it. They put the time and effort into figuring it out.
Now, After all these years have passed you want to blame the people that have tried to help you. If you think the information on your page isn't " complete, accurate, or acceptable, to either side of the debate" then when do you make the effort to get up off your a$$ and get the information yourself directly from the source and then put the accurate information on your page? Then debate it. I don't know how you can even call it a debate. You don't have enough knowledge of the system to debate anything.
Fact is, if Stan didn't decide to do a video 15 years from now you would still be on here insisting CTE does not work based on the information on your page.
I won't respond to your reply to this because I'm not going to run around the cherry tree for another 30 pages with you on this. You can have the last word. I just think it's time you take some ownership.
You don't have complete info because YOU REFUSE to go to the source to get it. Maybe when you change your approach to how you gather information you can move from the 101 stuff you've been selling to something more advanced.
... not true.
On the contrary, I think the video you posted was very good, and I think Spidey's blog is also a good source of information. That is why both of you are quoted at the top of my CTE resource page.
However, beyond what is there, I haven't seen any additional details that help shed light on the "missing pieces of the puzzle." My CTE resource page is an attempt to fill in those missing pieces.
Before creating the articles, illustrations, and analysis, I most definitely "did my homework." I have put in countless hours over many years carefully reading and studying all of these threads, talking on the phone with Hal, Spidey, Ron, and Stan, corresponding with CTE proponents via e-mail and PM, reading Spidey's blog, and trying out at the table everything everybody has suggested to me. So don't say I didn't "do my homework."
Based on everything I have seen, heard, and tried over the years, I think the best explanation for "how and why CTE works" is: "effective pivot length" and/or head alignment must change different amounts for different shots over a wide range CB-OB distances and cut angles (see the CTE resource page for explanations and illustrations). Now, people who use CTE effectively seem to do this naturally, accurately, and consistently. And like anything in pool, the more you do it, the better you get at it.
In addition to trying to understand exactly how and why CTE works, I and others (mostly Colin Colenso) have also identified many benefits a systems like CTE offers to some people.
I have certainly "done my homework" and don't see a need, nor do I have a desire, to dedicate a lot more time and/or money into learning more about a system that I think I already understand fairly well. Although, I do look forward to watching Stan's DVD to see if he has any new insights or information to offer to the CTE landscape.
Thank you.
I'm sorry you think my website and instructional products are just "101 stuff." You have a right to your own opinion, but many people disagree with you. For example, see some of the praise my Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots (VEPS) has received recently:
VEPS is definitely not "101" ... neither is my website; although, it does include some good "101" stuff, IMO.
Regards,
Dave
I certainly don't see how you can claim that. You mean you think Dr. Dave should go get a lesson from, say, Stan Shuffet, and then completely and in all detail present and explain all that on his pool FAQ site?
I don't think that's what Stan would want. If Stan WANTED all his stuff completely and thoroughly explained and presented he would have DONE SO--either here, or even just on his own website. Instead, he's selling a DVD for forty bucks about which his buddy and seeming promoter JoeyA says: "if I had not taken the lesson I can candidly tell you that I would have had some "issues" with the video by itself."
You're living in a fantasy world. NOBODY has come out with a full explanation of CTE "in all it's glory." All that have come out are bits a pieces here and there--but, in fact, even those are enough to COMPLETELY DISMISS IT as an aiming "system."
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Real useful material Dr Dave
That puts you ranked with GMT
GMT is a POS
And of NO use to the pool world
Just wanted to have that quote for posterity.
It's bad behavior, Petey. Behavior that you deserve to be banned for. Luckily for you, I don't EVER report posts.
As usual you aren't on the same page...well, as anyone.
"CTE and PRO-1" do some research before you chime in. We are talking about basic CTE here.
If the Dr did his homework and went directly to the source we would only have one version. Correct?
"One ball wide" is 2 1/4". I made my window 2" (again, which I think I took directly from your work). So I'll say that your comment is roughly in agreement with my original error figures.
Stop beating around the bush. If you have a LINK to the "source," then provide it.
If you mean Hal Houle himself, Dr. Dave (AND Lou Figueroa AND Mike Page) have already claimed to have SPOKEN AT LENGTH to Hal--and not been able to glean any more than Dr. Dave has already put on his site.
If you know exactly what "basic CTE" is then spell it out. What stops you? AFAIK you already DID "spell it out" once and then took the video down. What are YOU confused about?
I know Eazzzzzzy
I dont see him doing anything positive and I just love the photo
Like to have a visual on whom I am talking with
I tried to explain. I don't have the ability to express what I see at the table to make it work. I've made that very clear many times. I would have to show someone in person. If you come to the DCC look me up and I will try to help you. You could wear a mask or a costume to hide your true identity.
It's comments like that which verify for me that CTE isn't a "system." Systems have clear, defined steps and processes. If you can't explain it, then it's not a "system." (unless you have some sort of handicap--which I doubt you do: If you can type and you can play pool, you can explain a system that you USE)
And what about the rest of my post? What's this "source" you refer to? If it's Hal, then Dave HAS gone to the source. So what are you talking about, then?
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I wish AZ had IP stamps. I'm starting to see a pattern here.
His identity protection is VERY important
I would think SOME would like to talk face to face with him
Not me though, I am not in to GEEK SQUAD
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Do you really think that I, or anyone else needs to respond to the little guy throwing stones from behind the wall? I don't have to explain anything to you. You are a coward hiding behind a screen name.
As you like to say...I'm putting you in the 80 and under crowd. :thumbup:
So Dr. Dave is RESPONSIBLE to explain exactly what CTE is, Dave says he has posted everything he can FIND, YOU say you KNOW what "basic CTE" is, but you "don't have to explain anything."
That's a pretty messed up little circuit you got going on in your head.
Oh, and now I'm a COWARD for....having a screen name? You mean I have something that I should be afraid of? Both you and Spidey refer to me as a COWARD....so....what? Are you threatening me, that I should have something to cower from?
Gee, I have to say, among other things....that's really GREAT SUPPORT for the strength of your intellectual position on "CTE."
So Dr. Dave is RESPONSIBLE to explain exactly what CTE is, Dave says he has posted everything he can FIND, YOU say you KNOW what "basic CTE" is, but you "don't have to explain anything."
That's a pretty messed up little circuit you got going on in your head.
Oh, and now I'm a COWARD for....having a screen name? You mean I have something that I should be afraid of? Both you and Spidey refer to me as a COWARD....so....what? Are you threatening me, that I should have something to cower from?
Gee, I have to say, among other things....that's really GREAT SUPPORT for the strength of your intellectual position on "CTE."
It is not personal, We just dont like you
FYI I no longer have anything but sarcasm for Dr Dave either
After his quoting and posting of BREAKNRUNS post on his website
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