Why do very few pros ever offer advice on AZB?

JCIN said:
JAW725 said:
Why? You really think there is some magic system?

You can have the perfect voodoo/jedi aiming system but it still comes down to executing the basics under pressure. That is what makes the pros pros, not some super secret aiming system invented by mute Tibetan monks.
In all due respect, I kind of know that there is a "magical system" :) If you aimed every shot ( including banks ) the same exact way using the same approach and became pretty good at it, trust me you won't miss often. I'm not saying the system will make you a pro, nor did I say an Aiming System is all the pros have in there arsenal. However if you pot balls with high consistency and confidence that is your mental toughness right there.

I'm not trying to fight with you. If you pot heavy that's awsome, but for some who have some consistency problems with recognizing MANY angles or contact points etc., this system gives much promise. From what I understand, Landon Shuffet and Stevie Moore no longer pot by feel, they just shoot the same shot all day.

Take care mate,

J.W.
 
uwate said:
What a farce indeed. Are you a professional player? Do you even play well? You evidently have some sort of aiming system, but really who cares? Like Donny Mills says, if you miss to one side, next time you aim a tiny bit less to the other side. I dont get how you seem to think your some sort of pool champion and talk down to people on this forum. I am no pro pool player but I'd sure like to try you some. You and your aiming system can play me at the 09 DCC a ten ahead if your aiming system can stand to post it on the light.
Hello,

I know some of Hal's posts may seem harsh, but I believe he is just trying to tell you something. I think what he meant is that a pro will never divulge such information to the public, no matter what approach they may have toward the "professional" side of pool.

Landon or Stevie might play you some ;)

Take care,

J.W.
 
I dont see Landon or Stevie here talking crap to good guys like JoeW. Hal Houle may have good info that is being used by players but again, does that give him a free pass to act like an asshole?
 
JCIN said:
He is in good enough shape to act like an asshole on the internet.


I was not defending his comments... I was only pointing out the physical details of the person that was called out.

It appears uwate understood my intent.

Hal is in plenty good shape to post as he sees fit....and then defend those words as he sees fit...

I was just making a comment about a specific detail...(that is all)

Besides all that.....Even if Efren decided to start posting on this board...Even though he can beat every player on the planet at pool...That would not give him the right either (to act like an asshole)
 
i like the fact Hal isnt PC, call it like it is, f*ck sugar coating things, its better than whining and playint the victim roll.
 
halhoule said:
He Has Nothing. He Has No Aiming System, He Has No Anything;
What A Farce. He Is Not A Professional Player. He Is An Academic.
Not A Player.

And he's also contributed far more to this forum than you. You post cryptic messages that are usually off-topic and 99.9999% (rough estimate) of those posts go something like this: "blah blah blah Aiming System blah blah blah" (I should correct myself as they go more like this: "Blah Blah Blah Aiming System Blah Blah Blah").

Regardless of what you might think, there are others here who might have something of value to share that have nothing to do with aiming systems. In fact, I'd venture to say that aiming isn't even half the battle.
 
uwate said:
actually no i didnt. i dont know this guy I just find the way he posts to be insulting. With this info, then I am an idiot and I apologize. I still think he posts in a very offensive manner and he doesnt get any kind of free pass on that bc hes 80 and handicapped. But definitely yeah woofing at him is pretty stupid. sorry

Hal is 86 years old.

Tear his azzzz up uwate. :p
JoeyA
 
Fatboy said:
i like the fact Hal isnt PC, call it like it is, f*ck sugar coating things, its better than whining and playint the victim roll.

He doesn't call anything like it is. He doesn't actually say anything. He's a broken record that posts about aiming systems in every thread, and manages to insult people at the same time with most of those posts. It's an old, tired routine. If he were actually saying something substantial, then the "direct approach" would be quite enjoyable to read. In this case, however, we could all call him an asshole and that would be a far better example of people "calling it like it is" than anything he's ever posted.
 
halhoule said:
He Has Nothing. He Has No Aiming System, He Has No Anything;
What A Farce. He Is Not A Professional Player. He Is An Academic.
Not A Player.

since hal only posts negative stuff im just gonna give him some negative rep. yall should do the same.:angry: :angry:
 
halhoule said:
JoeyA said:
There are a few pros that post on AZB from time to time but you SELDOM see them offering any pool tips on the Main Forum.


I was wondering why you thought this was so.

Do you think their chiming in from time to time would help expand their fan base or simply open them up to mean-spirited criticism?
IF YOU ARE STILL IN THE DARK I WILL SHOW YOU THE AIMING SYSTEM
AND YOU CAN BE THE JUDGE. I AM IN PA.

THE ONLY THING THE PRO HAS GOING IS HIS AIMING SYSTEM. IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM HE HAS NOTHING ELSE TO SAY, THAT IS WHY THEY AVOID IT. THERE IS ONLY ONE PRO AIMING SYSTEM OUT THERE, AND EVERY PRO USES IT, EVERY ONE OF THEM. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CLOSED MOUTH ABOUT IT. IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 1924. YOUR PRO HAS TO CLAM UP BECAUSE EVERY PRO HAS TO DO THE SAME. NOBODY LETS THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG, HAL HOULE

Which mental hospital are you in or which one did you escape from??

I've never learned any aiming system. I know some players aim with a "left to right aiming system". All I know is I line the stick up with the ball and then the ball goes in the pocket. Some how this lends itself to me not missing a ball very often. I actually miss less than some of the pros who have this "secret system".

Hal houle does this mean my system is good also?
 
donny mills said:
halhoule said:
Which mental hospital are you in or which one did you escape from??

I've never learned any aiming system. I know some players aim with a "left to right aiming system". All I know is I line the stick up with the ball and then the ball goes in the pocket. Some how this lends itself to me not missing a ball very often. I actually miss less than some of the pros who have this "secret system".

Hal houle does this mean my system is good also?

I'm with you - aiming systems are the creations of people who can't see the freakin' balls.
 
Well, Hal is clearly crazy and if it took you til now to see it... then perhaps you are too.

Professional players and instructors have much more to teach than aiming systems. Pocketing the ball is the easy part. Yes, there is a lot to an aiming system and I use a few myself when needed, but what happends AFTER you make the ball is what really counts.

With that being said, if you need an aiming system.... I would talk to Ron V over this guy. I dont know if his system is better, but is a much nicer person and NOT crazy.
 
As far as why pros dont offer advice on AZB.... SJM said it best. Its a conflict of interest.
 
cleary said:
As far as why pros dont offer advice on AZB.... SJM said it best. Its a conflict of interest.

The DAZZLER just popped in on another thread and shared his aiming/shooting technique with AZ Billiards Main Forum Members. Big two thumbs up for you DAZZLER! :thumbup: :thumbup:

JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
The DAZZLER just popped in on another thread and shared his aiming/shooting technique with AZ Billiards Main Forum Members. Big two thumbs up for you DAZZLER! :thumbup: :thumbup:

JoeyA
THANKS JOEYA!!!!
 
Fart sniffer said:
The one gripe I have with talking to people about pool and helping them with their game is their total lack of consideration for you as a person and your time. Every day it seems I get hit up to "practice so you can teach me something", "let's play so you can show me how to play" or "I like practicing with better players because it helps my game".

These people don't even offer you a soda but you are supposed spend time with them to "help them", if it happened once in a while it would be fine but it happens A LOT and it keeps me from going to the pool room on league nights.

Giving a pointer or two here and there is something I do quite often, but when you want me to commit to helping you with your game can you at least be a little considerate? I try to be easy going and open to talk to anyone but my shields are up when your intention is to help yourself to my time without any consideration.

Good post hope everybody reads it.
 
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