Very well said and spot on !!!
Why does it seem that I play better w a House Cue than my 2 own personal cue?
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Great general all-around advice. It's something that will stick with me a while.
offaxis, you don't say whether it's a particular house cue - or all house cues in general. Over the years I've found a good half-dozen house cues that I considered /fantastic/ hitters. Just IMHO
Sell those cues & get a full-splice Schmelke true sneaky. Go with bocote wood. That should do it !!!
Another theory is that you may expect to play good with your cue, so you put preassure on your game, while not expecting much when playing with a house cue so you may be more relaxed.
meh ... there's better options.
Can you guys keep a secret? Nothing hits better than a good one piece cue! 
My man !
What you just shared reflects alot about your game, i can tell right away that you're obviously playing at a very high speed.
I was taught the taaiwanese way of playing after living in taiwan for few years, fundementals and fundementals again focusing on High-middle-low striking on cueball avoiding english unless obviously need.
I was playing with a southwest for years , plays lighout absolutely so as long as u stay off english as conventional kinda deflects alot.
Tried a predator shaft, loved it as i hardly have to compensate although hit is way softer.
Started trying to play like the efrens, the biados and the pinoys, trying to spin every ball in and in the meanwhile forgot whatever i learn from taiwanese. Game drop couple notches immediately n choke constantly under pressure.
Realize i wasnt pinoy whom many are immensely talented n can "feel" their way around english since they were in diapers.
Went back to playing without english and good position rather than " trying too hard" position.
Game went back n up 1 notch as i cld now run out more consistently and at the same time reap the benefit of Ld shaft as i cld use english efficiently only when required.
My 2 cents, basics basics basics...
I have my own twisted theory about this. LOL .... With an unfamiliar cue, your attention (conscious thoughts) are occupied by the specifics of playing with that cue and don't get as much opportunity to try to figure out how to miss.
That's one thing.
Also 1piecers transmit every little detail of the hit usually. Maybe that's giving you the feedback you actually need.
Lastly, quite a few house cues actually have an LD construction that's better than Fury's. The older ones actually have 12mm tips, very small ferrules and a lot of air in there (presumably to save money). That might contribute to the higher accuracy.
Seems to me you need to find another cue that fits your needs better, and neither Fury nor Joss do that currently.
Cheers,
M
If what the OP wrote was indeed applicable to others, then I'd suspect the cue-maker selection might be a factor.
I'm not asking for the cue-maker identities and truly do not care since my cues play far superior to any house cue.
Just because you own a two piece cue doesn't mean it plays better than a house cue and the looks do not matter.
Pick a talented cue-maker and tell them what you want in your cue, i.e., specs, and you'll likely be very pleased.
I'm not asking for the cue-maker identities and truly do not care since my cues play far superior to any house cue.
Just because you own a two piece cue doesn't mean it plays better than a house cue and the looks do not matter.
Pick a talented cue-maker and tell them what you want in your cue, i.e., specs, and you'll likely be very pleased.
secret
one piece plays better
Tim scruggs told me the same thing
"we have all been trying to get the hit of a good one piece"
my deano cue was close
wood pin,wood to wood joint
similar taper to stiff house cue
lots of people prefer the one piece cues to the 2 piece
one piece plays better
Tim scruggs told me the same thing
"we have all been trying to get the hit of a good one piece"
my deano cue was close
wood pin,wood to wood joint
similar taper to stiff house cue
lots of people prefer the one piece cues to the 2 piece
Great answer.I have my own twisted theory about this. LOL .... With an unfamiliar cue, your attention (conscious thoughts) are occupied by the specifics of playing with that cue and don't get as much opportunity to try to figure out how to miss.
Actually, you're not alone, but nobody has hit on it yet.
The house cue, assuming it's pretty straight, is pretty stiff, huge taper in the shaft. For most people, that's actually good, believe it or not.
The pool community has gotten used to pros and very good amateurs using very thin shafts over the past couple decade, as they have the skill to do it. And they can work the cue ball well with that thin shaft.
Most of you can't. And that's why you might find the house cue pockets a lot more balls.
No judgement here, but way decades ago, I noticed the same thing.
All the best,
WW
The house cue, assuming it's pretty straight, is pretty stiff, huge taper in the shaft. For most people, that's actually good, believe it or not.
The pool community has gotten used to pros and very good amateurs using very thin shafts over the past couple decade, as they have the skill to do it. And they can work the cue ball well with that thin shaft.
Most of you can't. And that's why you might find the house cue pockets a lot more balls.
No judgement here, but way decades ago, I noticed the same thing.
All the best,
WW
I've always thought not much hits better than a good house cue. Probably why I'm so attracted to hustler cues.
Nodal points????? No wonder i've playin' bad, my nodal points are not lined-up. Jeez, how can i go on living knowing this? Seriously, you've got to be joking.because its a one piece cue,and there is no interuption in the harmonics of the vibration of it and the 2 nodal points are in their correvt place, when you introduce metal into wood at the A joint of at themiddle joint it messes up the true harmonics of the cue. in snooker 3/4 cues playbetter than 50/50 jointed cues, many pro snooker players play with one piece cues. I knew one top pool player who used a one piece cue with a 18" length of PVC pipe iver the shaft to protect it from dings in his car.
When a cue comes incontact with a CB it creates a sin wave with 2 nodial points the less interference with themthe better the cue plays as a rule all other things being even,
school's out,
best
eric
He's not kidding and there is some science to his comments, and he might even be right for some cues, but the locations of the nodes for the fundamental mode of (sideways) vibration of the cue are unlikely to have any direct effect on the hit. They could change the feel and feedback.
As far as the OP, I played with a house cue one time when I had forgotten my own cue and it felt like an extension of my arm. Some other house cues feel like logs.
The snooker players might be right.
Agree with this 100%. I can't play with wrapped cues at all. My speed drops a few balls and my stroke goes out the window. My hands dont sweat and I have somewhat dry skin so my hands completely slip on wrap. That causes me to grip a lot tighter when im playing with a wrapped cue which kills my stroke and my accuracy. With wrapless cues, I can grip very lightly without slipping and am able to keep my wrist loose. It took me a couple of years to realize this.
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In most instances, I'd agree with Deanoc's opinion on pool cues.
I've also read that custom cue-makers look for the hit of a 1 piece.
Well, I do not think that's true in that no one can define what that is.
I do subscribe to the "conceptual theory" and can understand that a
sculptured, solid piece of wood is unique and should play better than
one assembled. I have never found a house cue that played as good
as my Runde Schon and that cue dates back to 1985. Those cues may
exist but I've never encountered one. Instead, the cues I've encountered
had a pretty ho-hum balance, the butt was kinda large but the shaft taper
on some house cues seemed pretty good in my closed bridge hand.
In the 40's & 50's, having a favorite one piece cue was not unusual at all
and guys would have them stored at the pool hall identified as their cue.
Nonetheless, I have never seen a one piece house stick that had the
balance comparable to a custom cue. Understandably, the cue-maker
making the custom cue is very, very important otherwise all bets are off.
Matt B.
I've also read that custom cue-makers look for the hit of a 1 piece.
Well, I do not think that's true in that no one can define what that is.
I do subscribe to the "conceptual theory" and can understand that a
sculptured, solid piece of wood is unique and should play better than
one assembled. I have never found a house cue that played as good
as my Runde Schon and that cue dates back to 1985. Those cues may
exist but I've never encountered one. Instead, the cues I've encountered
had a pretty ho-hum balance, the butt was kinda large but the shaft taper
on some house cues seemed pretty good in my closed bridge hand.
In the 40's & 50's, having a favorite one piece cue was not unusual at all
and guys would have them stored at the pool hall identified as their cue.
Nonetheless, I have never seen a one piece house stick that had the
balance comparable to a custom cue. Understandably, the cue-maker
making the custom cue is very, very important otherwise all bets are off.
Matt B.
Maybe the OP simply preferred the weight and balance of the particular house cue.
follownoone
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I had a favorite ebony dufferin that I played with for years. I carried it to the pool hall in a black painted 60" 1.250 pvc pipe. One end I cemented a cap and the other of course came off to get the cue out. I got tired of the looks I got and one night putting it back in the case I hit the ceiling fan.
I then had a cue maker friend make it a two piece cue, It hits nothing like it used to and I use it only for a break stick now. I regret to this day changing it. It had a 12.5 mm tip and perfect balance. Live and learn.
I have a one piece Players that plays really well also but I do not like the 13mm shaft. I still have the case for a one piece and maybe someday I will find another good one. I wish cue makers would make them 58" or 59" long. Full spliced of course. I would buy one.
I then had a cue maker friend make it a two piece cue, It hits nothing like it used to and I use it only for a break stick now. I regret to this day changing it. It had a 12.5 mm tip and perfect balance. Live and learn.
I have a one piece Players that plays really well also but I do not like the 13mm shaft. I still have the case for a one piece and maybe someday I will find another good one. I wish cue makers would make them 58" or 59" long. Full spliced of course. I would buy one.