why doesnt anyone take a chance anymore?

In halls around here no one hassles anyone they dont know into a game, its usually just old rivals playing the same game they have been playing for years.
In the bars around here there are the usual offers to play for drinks but no cash.
The only time ive been asked to gamble by someone i dont know in the hall is by the owner when he was watching me play, he came up and asked if i wanted a game with him, I told him I was just practicing he said no problem and left it at that.
 
johnnydub said:
In halls around here no one hassles anyone they dont know into a game, its usually just old rivals playing the same game they have been playing for years.
In the bars around here there are the usual offers to play for drinks but no cash.
The only time ive been asked to gamble by someone i dont know in the hall is by the owner when he was watching me play, he came up and asked if i wanted a game with him, I told him I was just practicing he said no problem and left it at that.
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you always take that game... even if you lose... the more you play with him, he becomes a friend, and its never bad to be in tight with the owner.
 
softshot said:
you always take that game... even if you lose... the more you play with him, he becomes a friend, and its never bad to be in tight with the owner.
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Smart move. I agree.
JoeyA
 
johnnydub said:
In halls around here no one hassles anyone they dont know into a game, its usually just old rivals playing the same game they have been playing for years.
In the bars around here there are the usual offers to play for drinks but no cash.
The only time ive been asked to gamble by someone i dont know in the hall is by the owner when he was watching me play, he came up and asked if i wanted a game with him, I told him I was just practicing he said no problem and left it at that.
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The next time you go back, I would ask the owner if he wanted to play some cheap. That goes a long way for a lot of different reasons on a rainy day.
 
Good for you man. Your post is right on. Getting into action is the best thing for your game. Guys like Trusty Rusty will just never know. If he ever played for some REAL $$$ I got the feeling that the pressure will get to him and he will tense up and lose. And for the LOCK-UP artist who needs 75%-25% his favor to step up and play a fair game, you may only get 1 or 2 games your WHOLE life. You need to go see the WIZARD,... to get a new HEART!!! You are missing the point here. The point is to get your self some action so that you can be a stronger player. You WILL play harder for the CASH once you get used to it. But some people just cant handle pressure and they knock gambling and matching up. Those are not real players in my book. So go out to your local pool hall and challenge someone. Give up a spot if you have to, JUST STOP BEING AFRAID.
 
Good for you PUSHOUT, if you cant get any action, come to Sacramento HARDTIMES and ask for BABY Frank, he will give you courtesy $20 a set action. Good Luck!
 
trustyrusty said:
That honestly sounds like someone who can't perform unless they absolutely NEED to. Why not play Russian roulette. That's pressure, where's your heart? If a better player can't beat me without money on the line, I say that says as much about him as it does me. I certainly know what nerves are, and I'm not just talking about being hill - hill in some pool match. And I really don't think MONEY is something that works on my nerves like other things do. A 10 foot putt to make it into a playoff in a golf tourney is gonna shake me a bunch more than missing a 10 footer that takes a $1K outta my own pocket. Just the way I am. I don't need action on everything to hold my interest, or make me wanna win is all I'm saying.
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honestly, i would rate you as a low C player by the way you speak. it's common knowlege that you will not get any better in pressure situations unless you're able to put up and play. there are people that can't perform under pressure, so they decide not to play for money, and i totally respect that.. what you choose to do with your money is completely up to you. but to lambast every other player who is willing to put their money where their mouth is by comparing it to russian roulette or saying they have a gambling disorder is kind of out of line imo. btw, pool isn't really gambling it's betting money on yourself and your ablities to perform.
 
ioCross said:
honestly, i would rate you as a low C player by the way you speak. it's common knowlege that you will not get any better in pressure situations unless you're able to put up and play. there are people that can't perform under pressure, so they decide not to play for money, and i totally respect that.. what you choose to do with your money is completely up to you. but to lambast every other player who is willing to put their money where their mouth is by comparing it to russian roulette or saying they have a gambling disorder is kind of out of line imo. btw, pool isn't really gambling it's betting money on yourself and your ablities to perform.
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I'm not lambasting anyone for playing for money....I'm lambasting those who say that I (that would be me) need to. Do you really think Mosconi had to play for money to whoop up on Fats? Or do you think he woulda done it for free just to shut that loud mouth up? As for the russian roulette thing...if risk = heart...there's risk for ya - it wasn't meant to be a direct comparison to betting on pool. Like I stated before, if someone needs to put up money for incentive, that seems like their problem. I don't need to to want to beat someone. I don't like losing at anything as it is, why do you think that I (again, that would be me) would like it even less if I were to put money on it? I hated losing at anything as a kid, and I didn't have to bet on my baseball games to play harder, or put a little side action on hitting .400 for a season for EXTRA incentive.

Oh, and BTW, I do play in a money game (playing golf) on the weekends just because the group I play in does....it doesn't make me try harder, I wanna shoot my best every time out REGARDLESS. If you can't accept that not all people are driven by $$$....Fine. Don't believe me, but I'm not. Now, see what I get in pool halls when practicing??? Ha snothing to do with fear my friend.
 
its sad sometimes... you cant even get a game to make to focus, where I play ( Hawleys ) I sometimes even ask race to 9 for $5 and ppl are scared... unless they are a champion :confused:
 
Hustler08 said:
its sad sometimes... you cant even get a game to make to focus, where I play ( Hawleys ) I sometimes even ask race to 9 for $5 and ppl are scared... unless they are a champion :confused:
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Again, the assumption of fear....

Tell you what, if I'm ever around your way, I'll play you a race to 9 and I'll give you 5 freakin bucks up front. Or would that just kill your incentive to win? I don't need your 5 bucks, and you probably don't need mine, but if you need it for focus...so be it. We can play. Better?:rolleyes:
 
Trusty Rusty please go away, you want to find the league or FUNSIE part of the forums. This post is for action players only, (I) don't think you qualify. You have no idea about action players, or Mosconi for that matter. When you BOOK your first winner, Let us know, for now we will call you a RAILBIRD. Later------
 
actioncentral said:
Trusty Rusty please go away, you want to find the league or FUNSIE part of the forums. This post is for action players only, (I) don't think you qualify. You have no idea about action players, or Mosconi for that matter. When you BOOK your first winner, Let us know, for now we will call you a RAILBIRD. Later------
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Railbirds are those degenerates that bet on others' skills (not even their own, that's worse yet)...sorry, not me either. Sorry to see that people can't participate/compete in a game unless there's "action". Not only that, but those who don't play for money can't voice their opinion or rebutt what others say, and are relagated to the "less than action players" part of the forum. WHATEVER. If the only way you can get yourself to play well is by putting money on a game...great....do it....I DON'T CARE. But, I feel like a broken record when saying, not everyone needs that for motivation. :p And, again, I said you can believe what you wish....I'll believe what I know.
 
HEY TrustyRusty, You got the call 8
I am gonna predict pool is just a FAD for you. Your Mcdermott will be collecting dust in a year or so. Maybe you just cant play at any level to be putting up yer cash. Practice on a 7 footer, they are easier.;) Kepp practicing and let us know when you get your first break and run.
 
actioncentral said:
HEY TrustyRusty, You got the call 8
I am gonna predict pool is just a FAD for you. Your Mcdermott will be collecting dust in a year or so. Maybe you just cant play at any level to be putting up yer cash. Practice on a 7 footer, they are easier.;) Kepp practicing and let us know when you get your first break and run.
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Ok, look I'm sorry that I've upset you. You wanna rip on my game because you can't believe that anyone could play pool without cash on the line, then fine. Maybe I am the only one out there. But, please feel free to assume anything you want about me since A) we have differing opinions on motivation B) you can't answer any of my questions C) your idea of debating a subject is to tell the opposing view to leave, or just berate him.
 
you aren't alone

I have been a competitor almost all of my life, from long before I gambled. I have also gambled far larger than the vast majority of people on this forum, with some real expectation of getting paid or paying off if I lost. I would say I also stayed in action more and longer than all but a very few on this forum since I gambled on my pool game over 360 days a year for most of a decade. Gambling didn't work any magic for my game or my heart.

Perhaps the reverse is true, people who aren't natural competitors can become better competitors under the incentive of money but it is plain wrong to say that people can't compete without financial incentive. Winning a gold medal in a major event is big dollars in the Olympics now but it still isn't worth much in some of the lesser known events and wasn't worth a thing but bragging rights in the little known events for many years of the modern Olympics. Would anyone seriously try to say that the Olympians aren't putting out maximum effort if they don't and haven't gambled?

Hu



trustyrusty said:
Ok, look I'm sorry that I've upset you. You wanna rip on my game because you can't believe that anyone could play pool without cash on the line, then fine. Maybe I am the only one out there. But, please feel free to assume anything you want about me since A) we have differing opinions on motivation B) you can't answer any of my questions C) your idea of debating a subject is to tell the opposing view to leave, or just berate him.
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ShootingArts said:
I have been a competitor almost all of my life, from long before I gambled. I have also gambled far larger than the vast majority of people on this forum, with some real expectation of getting paid or paying off if I lost. I would say I also stayed in action more and longer than all but a very few on this forum since I gambled on my pool game over 360 days a year for most of a decade. Gambling didn't work any magic for my game or my heart.

Perhaps the reverse is true, people who aren't natural competitors can become better competitors under the incentive of money but it is plain wrong to say that people can't compete without financial incentive. Winning a gold medal in a major event is big dollars in the Olympics now but it still isn't worth much in some of the lesser known events and wasn't worth a thing but bragging rights in the little known events for many years of the modern Olympics. Would anyone seriously try to say that the Olympians aren't putting out maximum effort if they don't and haven't gambled?

Hu
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Hu,

I played baseball most of my life, from 6 years old until I was 23. I never once needed monetary incentive to want to play my best. That is pretty much the only point I was trying to make. In college I played at a pretty high level, and I even played some after (not enough to brag about - but I was paid to play). After that, I needed something to fill the void, so to speak, in competitive terms, and I got hooked on golf...still can't get enough competition...LOL

Now, if I had to make a living at playing pool; it'd be a whole different story. I know the pros don't make a ton of money in this sport, so they play money games. I don't have a problem with it at all. But telling me that I have to play for money to get better or to want to win, is just someone who doesn't know me. Thanks for your post...:D
 
I'm not buying it guys...I don't gamble.. with anyone.. I prefer to play pool.. not dicker for half an hour over the terms of a $5 game I can shoot up 3 or 4 racks with that time.gamblers will never be able to know the speed of a non gambler simply because. YOU WON'T PLAY US! its always an excuse as to why you can't or won't play good pool. "I can't shoot for nothing that will kill my action"

get over it.

I have more balls than most gamblers.. I play EVERYONE EVEN..you challenge me to a game and the first words out of my mouth are RACK EM. I challenge you to a game and we gotta sit and dicker and ***** for two hours.

Pressure comes from within, if you don't get excited while running out with no money the line your not a pool player your just a chump hustler. I play to win ALL the time against everyone.

you need a phony reason (cash) to dig deep. you can't will it to happen you need to force other pressure on yourself to preform well..

If folks want to gamble... have at it... but don't pretend like your better than me. because YOU won't play me..
 
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